Divans should have seen the end of reds under the bed, (and other colours) plus a bit of extra storage for the Data

I am quite prepared for and indeed expect Art to vigorously disagree as is his right of course but...What was once a suspicion and an ominous gut feeling about Xi and his mob has become a sense of very clear and present danger. Despite the endless things we complain about, We are very very lucky here - all of us - meaning you in the UK, us here in Australia and New Zealand, Canada and western Europe etc. We are lucky because we have the luxury of, regardless of our view, being able to complain. Being allowed to complain without fear of [ immediate] retribution or "correction" We are lucky because regardless of our prejudices, racial, religious or any other - we are allowed to have them. Sure we have the pressure of political correctness and the cancel culture but ask yourself..ARe you really that restricted?..People pretty much say what they like here. China may be watching or listening but at least you can say it. Everybody has a platform. You also have the luxury of being allowed to ignore sh*t you don't want to .ear. YOu can say you love Boris or that he's a numpty ( Learned that word here..I love it?) IN China?...well all I can say is they (the 1.5 billion) can have it. What a monumentally horrible place it looks. So Art I have to say - with the usual respect - that I couldn't possibly disagree with you more mate. THere is NEVER a situation where you can do nothing. I sure ain't going there. THere is always the opportunity of fighting to the death for what you believe in isn't there? What's the point of living anyway if that life is worse than death?

Keezoy, yes that's still the case but who knows how long it will last. Things are changing fast. It can change overnight.

The US has been feeding us this kind of bullshi* for years 'The yellow peril', 'Reds', 'weapons of mass destruction' etc. But still some mugs believe them.

I am quite prepared for and indeed expect Art to vigorously disagree as is his right of course but...What was once a suspicion and an ominous gut feeling about Xi and his mob has become a sense of very clear and present danger. Despite the endless things we complain about, We are very very lucky here - all of us - meaning you in the UK, us here in Australia and New Zealand, Canada and western Europe etc. We are lucky because we have the luxury of, regardless of our view, being able to complain. Being allowed to complain without fear of [ immediate] retribution or "correction" We are lucky because regardless of our prejudices, racial, religious or any other - we are allowed to have them. Sure we have the pressure of political correctness and the cancel culture but ask yourself..ARe you really that restricted?..People pretty much say what they like here. China may be watching or listening but at least you can say it. Everybody has a platform. You also have the luxury of being allowed to ignore sh*t you don't want to .ear. YOu can say you love Boris or that he's a numpty ( Learned that word here..I love it?) IN China?...well all I can say is they (the 1.5 billion) can have it. What a monumentally horrible place it looks. So Art I have to say - with the usual respect - that I couldn't possibly disagree with you more mate. THere is NEVER a situation where you can do nothing. I sure ain't going there. THere is always the opportunity of fighting to the death for what you believe in isn't there? What's the point of living anyway if that life is worse than death?

Of course yes. You never know for sure anything about what things are going to change to. And when things change they usually do change quickly. My only point is that there IS no point in just letting things change to a situation that is making life hell for you. Just laying down down and taking it? I will never give up what I have without a fight regardless of how scary the threat is. Because when you do fight as hard as you can..you never know..You just might win. Thank god those brave people that you celebrated not so long ago didn't take that attitude in 1941 in the skies over England. YOu did it then..you can do it again. So can we. And to those who say.."Oh but it's different now!..IT's a totally new threat.." I say nah. IT is not different. It is exactly the same. It is a bunch of gutless, narcisssistic, scumbag gangsters and dictators who want to make you and their own people their bitch. I'd rather die fighting thanks. IF it comes to that of course. There's lots of different ways to fight.

There are always Appeasers, and those who appease will give anything to avoid conflict.

They said that we should let the Nazis do what they were doing, they said the Falklands were not worthy of saving, etc etc etc.

They don't realise that Bullies depend on appeasers to keep them in control.
We haven't declared war on China, we're actually just cutting back on trade with them.