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Will it matter much?
If farage gets a majority, the UK leaves without any deal on 31 january 2020.
If boris gets a majority you get a withdrawal deal, and leave without a trade deal on 31 december 2020.

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Nice try at misleading people but no cigar.


The BrExit Party, by not standing in over 300 constituencies can not possibly form a government. Their standing down is tragic, and undemocratic and a clear move by the Establishment to prevent the people from voting in the real government they want. That is dictatorship.


The Toris under Boris ARE NOT DELIVERING BREXIT in any shape or form. They are merely trying for the FOURTH TIME to push May's disastrous surrender deal through which actually just leaves us in the EU under their control and under the jurisdication of the ECJ for years to come. It is BRINO, not BrExit and a total fudge.


BrExiteers should not be fooled by this Establishment dictatorial move. It is dispicable.

We can no longer afford to vote for Boris because he has refused to take us out properly with No Deal and is simply intending to get a majority to finally push through the May BRINO deal.

We must therefore vote to prevent Boris getting that majority and put as many BP candidates in as possible and if we can't vote for BP vote for another party to keep the Tories out.

Pretty much the Establishment has stuffed BeExiteers quite deliberately by manipulating the available voting options before the election. BrExiteers should be protesting about this imho.

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Generally, I agree.

However, if we are not to vote for the Tories, and we cannot vote for the BP (certainly not in my area anyway), who should we vote for?

The Limp Dems are worse than a BRINO; they'd keep us in completely.

The Loonies? Well, surely I need not say anything further.

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So an election won't solve the brexit problem? Donald tusk told you in march not to waste the extension till october. What did you do? Organize the election of a tory leader. Wasted time, as boris brought may's deal in the HoC for the fourth time.
You got another extension till january. What did you do? Organize a general election. Wasted time as it will deliver a parliament split by brexit.
Why don't you british simply leave? Are you that incapable to leave the warm, cozy nest of the EU?

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‘Don’t give up’ on stopping Brexit, says EU president Donald Tusk

What more needs to be said ?

Dictators

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"the European Union is like a giant pension fund for defunct politicians, who either cannot get elected in their own countries or are tired of the struggle to do so. It is a way for politicians to remain important and powerful, at the center of a web of patronage, after their defeat or loss of willingness to expose themselves to the rigors of the electoral process."

― Theodore Dalrymple



“The European dream was dead, he thought, the Europe of grand ideals was buried in the ashes of apathy. There was no brotherhood of nations, only the squalid struggle of the political and financial masters to line their own pockets, while the masses were brainwashed into a zombie-like existence under the false flag of liberty. All its values were secular and materialistic—with propagandistic jargon employed to nullify citizens from detecting the corrosion of their souls. Once Europe had professed itself to be the embodiment of a spiritual ideal. But, like a fossil, all that remained of it now was its hollow shell, the insides having rotted away during the passage of centuries.”

― Mark Samuels, Written In Darkness

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***** Some posts have been removed. Personal bickering and name calling not allowed.

Final warning.

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I find this very patronising.

Very clearly the UK people voted to Leave the EU but the establishment (EU) have prevented that from happening so all that you describe are simply the continued actions of the Establishment to purposefully delay and ultimately deny BrExit.

This is precisely why so many people voted to Leave the EU cesspit in the first place.

The EU appears to be utterly desperate. Frightened stiff to allow the UK to Leave and frightened stiff of the domino effect it will have throughout the EU empire.

It is imho the desperation of failed political model with failing economies, with bankrupted member states and a dictatorship that is crumbing. An idealistic dream that morphed into a bureaucratic boys club for tired old spent politicians who dare not expose themselves to the rigours of democratic election.

It has become clear to most BrExiteers that this EU Establishment is never going to permit the UK to leave its clutches. It has already invented new laws/bills to prevent us properly leaving (via walking away) and has enlisted the aid of the Supreme Court to get its way.

The people of the UK are clearly meaningless to these dictators, our wishes of no interest whatsoever to them. That's pretty typical of dictators which history shows repeatedly end up oppressing the people more and more.

I truly hope the people of the UK rise up in their millions and protest against this undemocratic oppression and manipulation of the election process.

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The EU will, one way or another, collapse.

No empire in the entire history of the world has continued indefinitely.

Our only problem, and it is still a big problem, is that when the EU does come to an end, we shall have debts for a whole continent which will have to be repaid.

Sadly, then, whether we are in the EU or eventually out, there is a distinct probability that the country will be financially ruined.

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Our country was already financially ruined by the uncontrolled spending of BLiar and Brown when people foolishly voted Labour in, perhaps not realising that both Labour and Tories are Establishment Parties.

It's clear we are not going to be allowed to leave the EU. The Establishment is ensuring we will stay in by any and all means including using the Supreme Court.

What can ordinary folk do in the face of such treachery and despotic dictatorship?

It is surely now time for millions of Leavers to take to the streets and protest against this wilful refusal to honour the will of the people given in the largest public vote ever held.