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You should have stood up to them UJ, manned the barricades and told them that you will not pay!
But you did, you surrendered to capitalism, a real Marxist wouldn’t have.
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26-04-2019, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
I did not VOLUNTARILY pay, like many others I had it deducted from my pay before I received the balance, and yes I am a Marxist and proud to be so!!!
Not too proud to accept capitalist handouts and live in a soft capitalist society .
That is hypocrisy
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26-04-2019, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Not too proud to accept capitalist handouts and live in a soft capitalist society .
That is hypocrisy
Not Capitalist handouts, hard working tax payers cash given by a caring government to people who are SUPPOSED to be in need of support when they can not support themselves.

Now the government are trying to focus our tax money to people in need and pull back on it being a redistribution of earnings which is what crypto-socialist governments had achieved.

The emphasis is also being placed on need, not want, but unfortunately not as quickly or as radically as should be the case.

As I commented previously, the Welfare State has become a herd of sacred cows and is in desperate need of being culled.
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26-04-2019, 03:47 PM
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Re: Which is acceptable - Freedom Fighter, Terrorist, Mobster.

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
I did not VOLUNTARILY pay, like many others I had it deducted from my pay before I received the balance, and yes I am a Marxist and proud to be so!!!
UJ,

I respect your beliefs.

There is much, in the various writings, manifesto, etc. which steers us towards individual equality.

To me, that is a respectable target.

I think that you would agree, however, that the need for power & the greed in Human Nature have always stopped this from being achieved - wherever it has been tried.

Still, a bit closer might not be so bad.
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26-04-2019, 04:32 PM
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Hi

I simply cannot accept that the killing of innocents is ever right.

That is the cause of my severe PTSD.

Terrorists are just scum.

I have no time for them at all.
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27-04-2019, 07:59 AM
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Re: Which is acceptable - Freedom Fighter, Terrorist, Mobster.

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
UJ,

I respect your beliefs.

There is much, in the various writings, manifesto, etc. which steers us towards individual equality.

To me, that is a respectable target.

I think that you would agree, however, that the need for power & the greed in Human Nature have always stopped this from being achieved - wherever it has been tried.

Still, a bit closer might not be so bad.
There is nothing stopping people who have that belief from going and living in a country that shares it.

If you belive in Marxism go live in Russia with other like minded souls .
( except that they don't and most prefer to live in London !)

And it doesn't work .

I take it that most intelligent people here have read Animal Farm ?
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27-04-2019, 09:23 AM
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Re: Which is acceptable - Freedom Fighter, Terrorist, Mobster.

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
There is nothing stopping people who have that belief from going and living in a country that shares it.

If you belive in Marxism go live in Russia with other like minded souls .
( except that they don't and most prefer to live in London !)

And it doesn't work .

I take it that most intelligent people here have read Animal Farm ?
In all fairness although the long gone USSR had its faults by the truck load it wasn't quite as bad as it was being made out to be in the MSM and the propaganda being churned out by the American government in a constant panic in case the millions of people living in grinding poverty realise that the American Way was NOT the best ways.

Today Russia and the Russian Federation is NOTHING like the long gone USSR.

The tragedy is that if Obama Hussain instead of demonising Russia because of Obama's love of Islam and Russian fighting of Islamic attacks from outside had teamed up with Russia then the threat that we now face would be very much less and the the threat that we now face.
 
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