16-01-2019, 04:50 PM
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Re: Can the self servers stop a no deal brexit ?
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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What you are basically saying Realist, is that we need a completely new English, Brexit supporting political Party. Who would you have leading such a party? I cannot honestly think of one single politician that would live up to the people's standard of acting on behalf of the people. Perhaps Nigel Farage comes to mind, but there are too many people who voted remain, that class him as racist because it suits their agenda. Where is the person waiting in the wings, that will step forward and brush us down, pick us up, turn to the hated EU and say. This is how it will be!! I'm afraid he or she simply does not exist.
I have suggested before that one possible step could be if all of the Brexit supporting MPs in both the Conservative and Labour parties could split with their own parties and unite to form a new UK independence party. Obviously, it would have to be called something different!
If they did this after an early GE was called, I think they'd take the majority of the votes, the way most people are feeling right now.
Unfortunately, it is a sad fact that Conservatives and Socialists can never agree on anything. Such feelings are inbred.
16-01-2019, 05:38 PM
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Re: Can the self servers stop a no deal brexit ?
Originally Posted by Realist
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This is hogwash Julie and you know it. You're just trotting out sound bites that you have heard on the TV/radio.MANY Looney Labour representatives have been interviewed, given TV/radio airtime and were all asked, what are you plans, what would you do, what do you want to see happen and every one of them has waffled through without offering anything.
Labour have NO PLANS. They have NO IDEAS. They have nothing, either now or 2 years ago.
All they have done is said they want everything that isn't achievable and "left all options open" so as not to alienate the voting public.
They want free trading without being in the EU, simply not possible
They want to be in a Customs Union with the EU but not the EU Customs Union, simply not possible
They want all the benefits of being in the EU whilst being out of the EU, just pure fluffy unicorn fantasy
They won't rule out a 2nd referendum, which is thoroughly anti democratic, because they don't want to alienate Remainers.
Labour are a spent force. They literally have nothing whatsoever to add to the BrExit situation so they just carry on jumping on the band wagon, as they always do, to try and use the situation to their own ends for votes to get to No 10.
They are duplicitous, despicable idiots.
16-01-2019, 07:16 PM
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Re: Can the self servers stop a no deal brexit ?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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They may be but we all have to believe someone or we'd go mad with it, I chose to believe the people who are on the radio appear to be telling the truth. If three or four people all say something was done or said I have to believe them over someone wasn't there at the time.
They all have their own opinions and, no doubt, have their own personal welfare in their minds.
As I said earlier, whatever happens with Brexit now, the country's had it, thanks to our inept MPs - of all parties.
16-01-2019, 07:33 PM
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Remember paddy saying he would ban aircraft overflying ‘his’ country despite forgetting anything and everything that goes in or out of Ireland does so on ENGLISH roads .... the guy that has ramped anything and everything up over brexit despite the uk being his biggest customer.... well ( I really do laugh )The Irish PM Leo Varadkar today admitted that a no deal Brexit would hammer his country's economy.
Mr Varadkar said: 'A no-deal scenario would have a deeply negative impact on jobs, on the economy, particularly the traded and agri-food sectors, our farmers and fishermen, our rural economy, our businessmen and women all over the country.
Be careful what you wish for !!!!!
Merkel tells May there is still time to negotiate Brexit deal with EU
https://mol.im/a/6597417
https://youtu.be/NBG5E9P-1mY
And so his arguing /supporting his new EU chums ( remember Ireland had to have several votes before they joined the mad house and that led to a housing slump /debt )and their ‘border’ .... forgetting of course which side his bread is buttered
https://youtu.be/wfGEFIIR6Bk
16-01-2019, 08:49 PM
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Re: Can the self servers stop a no deal brexit ?
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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I'm so ashamed of our politicians. The EU set out to make us suffer for daring to leave and the self serving idiots have walked right into their trap. What must the people of this country be thinking two and a half years after they voted for Brexit? what must the rest of the world that we hope to make deals with after we leave, think of a once respected, responsible British Parliament, for the past two and a half years, instead, acting like schoolchildren instead of respected MP's charged by the people to carry out their wishes.We are a laughing stock, deservedly so.
After the referendum result, they should have said "ok, not what we wanted, but lets all get together and do whats best" They could have started making contingency plans two years ago for a possible no deal brexit in case a good deal could not be agreed with the EU.
But no, instead they have spent two years trying to scupper brexit, and bickering amongst themselves like the out of touch bunch of children that they demonstrably are.
Watching parliament is like watching a kindergarten playground.
They are simply a bunch of self serving elitist pathetic cretins. You'd get more sense from a headless bloody chicken.
16-01-2019, 09:20 PM
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Remember the war ... yes that war ... you know... any war ... be it nazi’s in Germany or Tony bliar in Iraq .... Cameron with Libya ...it really doesn’t matter today as choose any date in history and you can research all you want online and the same applies to brexit as we live through history ... have you considered that yet ? We are living page by unwritten page in possibly the greatest event in Europe for 70 years .... this is such a story that it hasn’t even finished yet but here is a fact ... one day it will be finished and here is another fact ... general elections will always be had ... and here’s another fact , the press will have a field day with mp’s and what they actually promised in their manifesto and what they actually voted .... here’s another fact .... we won’t ever forget , not because I have big ears and a huge nose ( I put that down to getting older ) but because when this is all over and the press will draw breath and have time to make sense of everything then we will have our say , doesn’t really matter what the self serving elite do today ..... ITS WHAT THE GREAT UNWASHED DOES LATER !!!17-01-2019, 12:19 AM
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Re: Can the self servers stop a no deal brexit ?
Originally Posted by fender
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i hold the entire establishment in utter contempt.After the referendum result, they should have said "ok, not what we wanted, but lets all get together and do whats best" they could have started making contingency plans two years ago for a possible no deal brexit in case a good deal could not be agreed with the eu.
But no, instead they have spent two years trying to scupper brexit, and bickering amongst themselves like the out of touch bunch of children that they demonstrably are.
Watching parliament is like watching a kindergarten playground.
They are simply a bunch of self serving elitist pathetic cretins. You'd get more sense from a headless bloody chicken.
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