28-07-2020, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Have they been legalised? Thought it hadn't happened (yet), but am happy to be corrected. There was a death last year of some young minor celeb who got killed by an HGV driver who couldn't see her when she was on her electric scooter on a London roundabout, which is what I'm basing my understanding of the law on. AFAIK such scooters are not permitted on roads nor pavements, but are allowed on private land for leisure purposes.
I have definitely seen news reports confirming the decision. Whether it's live yet I'm not sure but I have seen them on roads, no crash helmet, no lights. It's mayhem. It may be a great way to get around but not great for other road users particularly with no rules and no licenses. You can just imagine the bun fights if the cyclists and scooters clash. What if scooters start using cycle lanes?!
28-07-2020, 06:47 PM
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On the news this morning, the commentator was talking to some man from the cycling fraternity, (sorry, didn't catch who he was) but a question was put to him --- "Do you think pedestrians are going to feel unhappy about cyclists sharing the only safe spaces in which they have to walk?" His answer?"Probably" and said with a smirk.
28-07-2020, 06:57 PM
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Y'see that's one of the few advantages of being a bit long in the tooth. Were expected to often be a bit wobbly on our feet and if a wobble occurs as a cyclist passes close by who's going to get it in the neck? Not us.I mentioned how my wife administers her form of justice (and she really does!) earlier in this thread. It works.
28-07-2020, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I have definitely seen news reports confirming the decision. Whether it's live yet I'm not sure but I have seen them on roads, no crash helmet, no lights. It's mayhem. It may be a great way to get around but not great for other road users particularly with no rules and no licenses. You can just imagine the bun fights if the cyclists and scooters clash. What if scooters start using cycle lanes?!
Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Totally agree. Which is where technology could eventually help to an extent.Have they been legalised? Thought it hadn't happened (yet), but am happy to be corrected. There was a death last year of some young minor celeb who got killed by an HGV driver who couldn't see her when she was on her electric scooter on a London roundabout, which is what I'm basing my understanding of the law on. AFAIK such scooters are not permitted on roads nor pavements, but are allowed on private land for leisure purposes.
hired will comply with the relevant law so can be used on the public roads.
The links below give details:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/escooter-legal-uk
https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-...-made-18597839
28-07-2020, 07:43 PM
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Ah yes, cycle lanes. We have some around here but no b*gger uses them. They all cycle on the road or the pavement. Complete waste of tax payer's money imo.As a driver, there is nothing worse than getting stuck behind a Constipation of cyclists. There are two choices, follow them the whole way and turn a ten minute journey into a 30 minute journey or attempt to overtake them putting them at risk.
As for the £50 quid government hand out, what a waste of tax payer's money. I can just see the Gypos lining up to claim their £50 per stolen bike.
Gawd knows where Boris and chums are getting all this spare cash from. This time last year they couldn't afford to keep the hospitals open.
28-07-2020, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Baz46
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If you are talking about electric scooters and not those electric devices used by older people and those who are disabled to get about, then the answer is probably "no" they are not legal, unless hired from a company hiring these out, or as you write used on private land. Those that can be hired will comply with the relevant law so can be used on the public roads.
The links below give details:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/escooter-legal-uk
https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-...-made-18597839
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48106617
https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...scooter-trials
Not sure how anyone will be able to tell whether an e-scooter is rented or privately owned. But nobody is policing it.
28-07-2020, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I have definitely seen news reports confirming the decision. Whether it's live yet I'm not sure but I have seen them on roads, no crash helmet, no lights. It's mayhem. It may be a great way to get around but not great for other road users particularly with no rules and no licenses. You can just imagine the bun fights if the cyclists and scooters clash. What if scooters start using cycle lanes?!
28-07-2020, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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All cars should be banned within one mile of any town or city centre to make it safer and healthier for cyclists to cycle into town. Obviously public transport would be allowed to carry the elderly and infirm.....This is a vision of Foxy's world.....
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