Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.
Originally Posted by
swimfeeders
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Hi
You have very rigid views.
The Japan deal would be good locally, a huge part of our problem is short termism, not taking the longer view.
Do you honestly believe that our bunch of idiots could get better deals than we already have?
I will leave you and others to your fantasises.
I personally have no fear of a No Deal.
I am retired with no mortgage.
I am currently paying my son's medical bills.
A No Deal would be good for me, it means signing certificates for exports, a huge earner for me.
It is however not what I want for others.
My mum could get a better deal than what Japan ended up with. Its all one sided - the EU get tarrif free imports into Japan and Japan get "cheaper goods" - which they wont because all the EU members states will do is increase the costs to be below what they would have been originally including the tarrif (like they do with everyone else in the block).
Meanwhile, Japan get cheaper German cars while the tarrifs on Japanese cars still apply from the EU until 2027.
What on earth were they thinking ?
Then to top it all off, this came into practice in 2019 when Japan knew we were leaving the EU so they might end up with tariffs on their cars made from the UK .... (although I suspect it won't make any difference to relocating the car plants as it would be more expensive to do that that than to live with the tarrif - and besides they may get to sell more cars tarrif free to the rest of the world if we get better deals with everyone else).
All on a "promise" that Japan "might" increase it's GDP as a result.
I'm coming round to thinking we might be better off with WTO terms and adjusting our tariffs when we need to.
If someone who worked for me signed a deal like that they would get fired on the spot.
I'll have a look at CETA next in a bit more depth - I smell a rat ha ha..
I agree with you though, our career politicians haven't a clue about trade agreements and how to negotiate. Thats why I would want a Tory/Brexit Party alliance so we can leverage business leaders to help us get the best deals.
EDIT
Here is how CETA benefits the UK. In short, not much.
Seems its another trade agreement based around French agriculture and German cars..... thanks Juncker !
https://assets.publishing.service.go...he_UK_2010.pdf