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30-11-2019, 11:58 AM
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By Cambridge University what the heck do they know about terrorists sat there in their academic ivory towers.

They invited him and paid his ticket to the event .
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30-11-2019, 12:00 PM
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The justice system has failed fatally in this case.
Initially he was given an indeterminate sentence .
The original indeterminate sentence ( brought in by David Blunkett) was over turned by the Tory government .
Surely it is the Parole Board who decide whether, after a Indeterminate Prison Sentence of, a prisoner should be released?
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30-11-2019, 12:03 PM
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The Torys government removed indeterminate sentences altogether .
So he appealed and the appeal board ignored the directions of the original judge who had recommended he not be released under it was sure he was of no future threat to the public.
The parole board are denying responsibility.
But someone must have authorised his release .
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30-11-2019, 12:07 PM
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The appeal court didn't have to release him. You can't blame the Tories for every mistake. it was down to the Court surely.
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That is why they will never give a referendum on Capital Punishment because even the most dense politician know it would be overwhelmingly for !
I think there are politicians who would be in favour of the death penalty in certain circumstances. Anyway, the government gave us a referendum on leaving/remaining in the EU - Cameron thought the majority would want to stay - so why not a referendum on capital punishment. Countries need to get together over this and work co-operatively in a single minded effort to help keep their citizens safe from what is an obvious threat. Police cannot do it on their own. Capital punishment is an uncomfortable thought, I know, but personally I think the time has come re-instate it for those who truly go "beyond the pale". We can't put everyone who commits crimes in jail, only to release them - even more dangerous - to do it again. If they are banished to other countries the problem will continue to "fester"
Also the people who decide that these folks can be released from an indefinite sentence are culpable because of their decisions. They have a responsibility as well. How (and why should) our police be expected to implement anything if this is what happens. They must think it is a total waste of time.
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30-11-2019, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy ->
The Torys government removed indeterminate sentences altogether .
So he appealed and the appeal board ignored the directions of the original judge who had recommended he not be released under it was sure he was of no future threat to the public.
The parole board are denying responsibility.
But someone must have authorised his release .
You would think, probably a computer flagged him up and out he went, laughing.
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30-11-2019, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
The appeal court didn't have to release him. You can't blame the Tories for every mistake. it was down to the Court surely.
It was the Tory government who removed the indeterminate sentence and reduced police presence on the streets .

The court of appeal should all be brought to brook to explain their actions.
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30-11-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor ->
I think there are politicians who would be in favour of the death penalty in certain circumstances. Anyway, the government gave us a referendum on leaving/remaining in the EU - Cameron thought the majority would want to stay - so why not a referendum on capital punishment. Countries need to get together over this and work co-operatively in a single minded effort to help keep their citizens safe from what is an obvious threat. Police cannot do it on their own. Capital punishment is an uncomfortable thought, I know, but personally I think the time has come re-instate it for those who truly go "beyond the pale". We can't put everyone who commits crimes in jail, only to release them - even more dangerous - to do it again. If they are banished to other countries the problem will continue to "fester"
Also the people who decide that these folks can be released from an indefinite sentence are culpable because of their decisions. They have a responsibility as well. How (and why should) our police be expected to implement anything if this is what happens. They must think it is a total waste of time.
Good post, why can't the politicians figure it out.
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30-11-2019, 12:20 PM
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Why can’t we take innovative action seeing as the bleeding hearts will not countenance capital punishment
Put all these terrorists on one of the outer Shetland island for life .
Drop a load of supplies by helicopter once a month.
Including a few cooking knives
Let them live or die with each other .
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30-11-2019, 12:25 PM
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Really Muddy, and what about the Shetland islanders? Us keyboard warriors
can sort out any mess huh? As long as it's not in our back yard.
 
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