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Originally Posted by Dodge ->
Regarding the extra ball on the field, if it's positioned on the field of play that could pose an indirect or direct obstruction to any of the players then the referee should put a halt to play and have the extra ball removed, but you have to bare in mind that the referee has to SEE the potential obstruction or for a player or players to inform the referee that there is an obstruction on the pitch. The referee did not see the extra ball and no player brought it to the attention of the referee.

If the referee did not stop the game due to the extra ball on the pitch then it was the responsibility of ANY of the Denmark players to immediately bring it to the attention of the referee. The fact the Denmark players carried on playing means they were not bothered by the ball being there.

It's no good losing and then people coming to their defence saying 'but the extra ball was an obstruction and the rules say the game should have been stopped'. Not bringing the issue up at the time it should have been raised and then complaining hours or days later just goes to show bad sportsman like behaviour from all those who are using it as an excuse to have a moan at England.

Were you a lawyer in another life Dodge ??
Spot on summing up !!

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Football always brings out the worst in some people .... and ignites the mob mentality.

So what's wrong with booing the opposition? Absolutely nothing. I might hiss too if I'd had a few.

The laser pen incident was another matter.
Isn't there safety concerns over them concerning damaging eyesight. At the very least the distraction was bad sportsmanship.

On the other hand ... after reading what a Danish journalist penned about the match I lost any sense of sympathy toward Denmark.
I'm less than impressed with them as I'm at a total loss as to what Covid has to do with a football match.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-England.html



As I said, football must just bring out the worst in people... including the losers.

It's usually the losing fans that smash things up Morticia !!
The winners are too pissed to do much else ??

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08-07-2021, 09:41 PM
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I agree longdriver, somebody clearly shining a light at his face !!
Can only be English fan surely ??
Regarding the extra ball, aren't the officials during the match
appointed by Uefa ?
On the match itself l think England made most of the running
particularly towards the end ?

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If thats the case DM then it must be the Danes shining the light at the back of his head. Unless he ain't got sod all in his head so the light went straight through from the front.
Proof if you require it https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57763001
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08-07-2021, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by longfellow ->
If thats the case DM then it must be the Danes shining the light at the back of his head. Unless he ain't got sod all in his head so the light went straight through from the front.
Proof if you require it https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57763001
I am sure that the video footage and closeup stills have been given to a university lab who will be able to analyse precisely the angle of the pen beam and then superimpose an image of the stadium over it to see exactly where in the stands the beam came from.

It's the same technology and method used by crime scene techs to work out the trajectory and starting point of a fired bullet.
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08-07-2021, 10:51 PM
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Well done England! (60 million people beat 6 million)
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09-07-2021, 09:07 AM
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I do not understand the mentality of cheats, using a laser pen is a form of cheating , if I win anything I like to do so fairly otherwise it is not a win for me.

The booing by some England fans is national embarrassment , they let down the whole country . Those caught booing are poor sports and should be banned.
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Just watched a re-run of the penalty.
First camera shows the green light moving around at the front and side of his head.
Second camera shot shows green light moving at the same side but the green light also is moving at the back of Kaspers head.?
Mmmmmm why did I not notice this last night.?

Also Ullabi I never said England were angels infact I would say quite the opposite.
But I believe that last nights match was a deserved win to England.
That spare ball was way over in the corner away from the penalty box. Plus I have said earlier we deserved at least one penalty out of two don't you think.
I agree LF and if there was a laser pen directed at him, it didn't stop him saving the penalty even if the ball went in straight after.
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09-07-2021, 12:09 PM
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I am surprised that only England fans are blamed for booing. This happens the whole time in all football matches. Not nice but it happens. I actually booed the England team for 'taking the knee' because I don't think politics should be in sport.

Anyone been to a pantomime? It's all part of the game.
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Originally Posted by Tedc ->
A question for our photography members:-

Would it be possible to touch up a photo, such as this, with a green blob?

As for the "extra football, on the pitch, I have noted, at previous game, that, when a loose kick sends a ball up into the crowd, the supporters often hang on to it - only to throw it back later in the game.


These. as most football fans know, are just a method of mitigating it when you lose!
Personally I don't think that green blob is from a laser pen seeing as it would be a dot rather than a smudge but we shall see if it is investigated.

As for the photo being retouched, yes very easy. Not so easy on a video although it can be done with the right software.

A right click on pics can often give all sorts of information about it and sometimes a google search for the pic will reveal all sorts of information about whether the pic is original or has been used elsewhere on the internet.
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Some twonk or other is running an on-line petition trying to get the match replayed: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15532...rling-penalty/
 
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