04-10-2019, 12:34 PM
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There is one Dutch mega-trawler the Cornelis Vrolijk, 370 feet long and one of the largest trawlers in Europe, that is basically a factory at sea. It is capable of hauling in 150 tons of herring, sardines, blue whiting and mackerel each time she throws her giant nets overboard. Factory-style process begins the moment they are hauled aboard with giant tubes to sort out sizing, then they are frozen. One catch is worth about £500,000.This makes millions for the Dutch family that owns this trawler, It laughingly flies under a British Flag and uses Hull as its home port, yet never returns there after their catches, instead it heads straight home to the Dutch port of IJmuiden to land its catch. This makes a mockery of the whole situation about European fishing policies, These fish are caught in English coastal waters under Britain’s fishing quota allocated by the EU and sold around the globe to countries such as Japan and Egypt.
It has the right to catch 23-24% of the entire English quota while English fishermen are allowed two crates worth £50.
With our inshore fleet (fishing within 12 miles using boats mostly shorter than 10 metres,) being allowed just 4% of the total English quota.
In 2010, two Spanish boats also operating under the British flag, were fined a total of over £1 million pounds. One trawler found with illegally caught salted ling not being in the log book. The other was caught by a British Naval Boat being involved in illegally ship-to-ship transfers of fish at sea in an attempt to avoid quota restrictions
One was O-Genita and the other Coyo Tercero.
Both found guilty of abuse of the quota system for unfair financial gain, and threatening sustainability of vulnerable fish stocks, as well as flooding the market with cheaper fish by impacting the businesses of legitimate fishermen.
But, hey ho, in 2013, the O-Genita was still able to lay claim to a large quota of fish in UK waters, so its clear that serious breaches of UK and EU fishing laws are no barrier to being rewarded with quotas in the future.
It’s a total farce. The sooner we are out of the EU, the better.
04-10-2019, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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There is one Dutch mega-trawler the Cornelis Vrolijk, 370 feet long and one of the largest trawlers in Europe, that is basically a factory at sea. It is capable of hauling in 150 tons of herring, sardines, blue whiting and mackerel each time she throws her giant nets overboard. Factory-style process begins the moment they are hauled aboard with giant tubes to sort out sizing, then they are frozen. One catch is worth about £500,000.This makes millions for the Dutch family that owns this trawler, It laughingly flies under a British Flag and uses Hull as its home port, yet never returns there after their catches, instead it heads straight home to the Dutch port of IJmuiden to land its catch. This makes a mockery of the whole situation about European fishing policies, These fish are caught in English coastal waters under Britain’s fishing quota allocated by the EU and sold around the globe to countries such as Japan and Egypt.
It has the right to catch 23-24% of the entire English quota while English fishermen are allowed two crates worth £50.
With our inshore fleet (fishing within 12 miles using boats mostly shorter than 10 metres,) being allowed just 4% of the total English quota.
In 2010, two Spanish boats also operating under the British flag, were fined a total of over £1 million pounds. One trawler found with illegally caught salted ling not being in the log book. The other was caught by a British Naval Boat being involved in illegally ship-to-ship transfers of fish at sea in an attempt to avoid quota restrictions
One was O-Genita and the other Coyo Tercero.
Both found guilty of abuse of the quota system for unfair financial gain, and threatening sustainability of vulnerable fish stocks, as well as flooding the market with cheaper fish by impacting the businesses of legitimate fishermen.
But, hey ho, in 2013, the O-Genita was still able to lay claim to a large quota of fish in UK waters, so its clear that serious breaches of UK and EU fishing laws are no barrier to being rewarded with quotas in the future.
It’s a total farce. The sooner we are out of the EU, the better.
yep SG, its a disgrace the way our territorial waters are abused by the failed EU quota system.
Those factory ships destroy everything - not just the fish, but absolutely everything.
Out Out Out !
04-10-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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There is one Dutch mega-trawler the Cornelis Vrolijk, 370 feet long and one of the largest trawlers in Europe, that is basically a factory at sea. It is capable of hauling in 150 tons of herring, sardines, blue whiting and mackerel each time she throws her giant nets overboard. Factory-style process begins the moment they are hauled aboard with giant tubes to sort out sizing, then they are frozen. One catch is worth about £500,000.This makes millions for the Dutch family that owns this trawler, It laughingly flies under a British Flag and uses Hull as its home port, yet never returns there after their catches, instead it heads straight home to the Dutch port of IJmuiden to land its catch. This makes a mockery of the whole situation about European fishing policies, These fish are caught in English coastal waters under Britain’s fishing quota allocated by the EU and sold around the globe to countries such as Japan and Egypt.
It has the right to catch 23-24% of the entire English quota while English fishermen are allowed two crates worth £50.
With our inshore fleet (fishing within 12 miles using boats mostly shorter than 10 metres,) being allowed just 4% of the total English quota.
In 2010, two Spanish boats also operating under the British flag, were fined a total of over £1 million pounds. One trawler found with illegally caught salted ling not being in the log book. The other was caught by a British Naval Boat being involved in illegally ship-to-ship transfers of fish at sea in an attempt to avoid quota restrictions
One was O-Genita and the other Coyo Tercero.
Both found guilty of abuse of the quota system for unfair financial gain, and threatening sustainability of vulnerable fish stocks, as well as flooding the market with cheaper fish by impacting the businesses of legitimate fishermen.
But, hey ho, in 2013, the O-Genita was still able to lay claim to a large quota of fish in UK waters, so its clear that serious breaches of UK and EU fishing laws are no barrier to being rewarded with quotas in the future.
It’s a total farce. The sooner we are out of the EU, the better.
Has any member of the uk negotiating team even put forward our
DEMANDS on what we expect on the fishing issue SG?
Because they must be DEMANDS not requests!
I think from day one not enough emphasis was put on this issue
and EU now believes they can get away with minor tinkerings to
the CFP? They should be corrected in this idea as soon as possible!
Regards Donkeyman!
04-10-2019, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Has any member of the uk negotiating team even put forward ourDEMANDS on what we expect on the fishing issue SG?
Because they must be DEMANDS not requests!
I think from day one not enough emphasis was put on this issue
and EU now believes they can get away with minor tinkerings to
the CFP? They should be corrected in this idea as soon as possible!
Regards Donkeyman!
Boris is trying to replace the backstop with alternatives that achieve the same, so text from the WA is again cuurent.
The negotiated*EU Withdrawal Agreement*included the provision that the UK would be bound by the Commons Fisheries Policy until the end of any transition period. The agreement on the backstop provisions for Norther Ireland included that free movement of fishery and aquaculture products would not be included in any backstop customs arrangements for the whole of the UK “unless an agreement on access to waters and fishing opportunities is applicable between the Union and the United Kingdom”. The*Political Declaration*sets out that any fisheries agreement should be in place for the first year after the transition period and included a target date for ratifying any fisheries agreement of 1 July 2020.
https://researchbriefings.parliament...mmary/CBP-8396
04-10-2019, 04:58 PM
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Saw this in today's Sun newspaper.QUOTE
A monster trawler has been spotted off the South Coast - sparking fears it will ''devastate' British fish stocks.
Banned by Australia, the 6,200-ton Lithuanian-registered Margiris is the world's second largest trawler.
In the past days, MarineTraffic website has tracked it off Sussex.
Campaigners believe the ''floating factory'' - which can process 250 tons of fish a day - is targeting mackeral and may have caused recent dolphin deaths.
John Hourston, of Blue Planet Society, said: ''If you get a trawler like this that's been there for five days, sweeping up and down, the mackerel disappear and it has British fishermen up in arms''.
He also warned such super trawlers will ''come into contact'' with dolphins, endangered blue-fin tuna and overfished sea bass.
He added: ''We need observers and CCTV to prove they are responsible for Dolphin deaths.
The European Commision, which governs fishing in the Channel, urged anyone with suspicions to report ''concrete facts.''
The Margiris's Dutch owners Parlevliet van der Plas says on its website it has an ''excellent reputation for sustainable fishing'' and the EU sets its catch quotas.
UNQUOTE
How can they allow this to happen? it defies belief.
04-10-2019, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Saw this in today's Sun newspaper.QUOTE
A monster trawler has been spotted off the South Coast - sparking fears it will ''devastate' British fish stocks.
UNQUOTE
How can they allow this to happen? it defies belief.
The dirk-dirk also a super trawler, has been active in british waters since the nineties. What has come over you people? Were you dormant all these years? Or is it one of the famous british media hoaxes?
04-10-2019, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Well spotted. The margiris has been fishing in the waters west of ireland since 2015. Bodes not well for UK spotting abilities post brexit.The dirk-dirk also a super trawler, has been active in british waters since the nineties. What has come over you people? Were you dormant all these years? Or is it one of the famous british media hoaxes?
04-10-2019, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Well spotted. The margiris has been fishing in the waters west of ireland since 2015. Bodes not well for UK spotting abilities post brexit.The dirk-dirk also a super trawler, has been active in british waters since the nineties. What has come over you people? Were you dormant all these years? Or is it one of the famous british media hoaxes?
Its not exactly a cruise ship is it....
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