20-08-2019, 07:52 AM
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Re: Is Boris a closet fascist who’s come out?
HiPoor Planning results in Poor Performance.
Yellowhammer is a legitimate document.
It lists what could happen, not what will happen.
Under normal circumstances you do a Risk Assessment and put your time and energy into things that can be done to resolve the issues.
May did not do this and many of the things in Yellowhammer where known and reported on as soon as she became PM.
If she had taken appropriate action, many of these issues would simply not arise now, procedures would have been in place.
I do not like Boris, but I genuinely feel sorry for him.
He has an enormous task and very little time.
Putting the infrastructure in, designing the new computer systems and training staff takes years, not a few months.
I simply do not believe the apocalyptic views of some.
I genuinely believe it is going to be more difficult than it could have been.
20-08-2019, 09:23 AM
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Re: Is Boris a closet fascist who’s come out?
Originally Posted by Bread
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So you believe that 50% of uk trade will stop with the EU on 31st October .... Clap............... clap........... clap........ clap
Instead of calling me a liar you should try and win some arguments. Your cheap shot remarks say more about you.than they ever would about me.
Does the report say that... No it doesn’t
Why do you continually tell lies?
Do you have a problem we ought to know about That may excuse your behaviour?
20-08-2019, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Banchory
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Did I say 50% of the UK trade with the EU will stop on 31 October.... No I didn’t Does the report say that... No it doesn’t
Why do you continually tell lies?
Do you have a problem we ought to know about That may excuse your behaviour?
-Your argument is that the document they published about a year ago is the gospel truth, it isn't - its fantasy and has been rubbished since it was first written. Its Project Fears almanac and you're falling for it hook line and sinker.Has it ever occurred to you that any problems with UK preparations for Brexit would be because of the civil service hasn't done it's job in the first place ? They are pro-remain EU fan boys (like you) and instead of getting off their fat lazy state sponsored arses and doing the job they get paid for, the useless idiots wrote the No Deal Armageddon Comic instead.
And you fell for it ...
20-08-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fender
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Simply what your nauseating drivel, pi$$ing in the wind posts deserve...
They just keep coming don't they? is it because you are not able to conceive anything different?
20-08-2019, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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Your believing everything written by the civil service, the ones who also said the country would suffer economic disaster if we didn't join the ERM -Your argument is that the document they published about a year ago is the gospel truth, it isn't - its fantasy and has been rubbished since it was first written. Its Project Fears almanac and you're falling for it hook line and sinker.Has it ever occurred to you that any problems with UK preparations for Brexit would be because of the civil service hasn't done it's job in the first place ? They are pro-remain EU fan boys (like you) and instead of getting off their fat lazy state sponsored arses and doing the job they get paid for, the useless idiots wrote the No Deal Armageddon Comic instead.
And you fell for it ...
Has it ever occurred to you that any problems with UK preparations for brexit would be because of the lack of supervision of the civil service by the brexit government. They don't make things up.
To blame (if that is the case) the civil service is just stupidity beyond redemption.
A government report on Operation Yellowhammer was leaked on Sunday, revealing the probable consequences of the UK leaving the EU without a withdrawal agreement, which is due to happen on 31 October. Here are the key points:
Transport disruption
• 50%-85% of lorries travelling across the Channel may not be ready for French customs.
• The worst disruption to the short Channel crossings might last three months, although disruption could continue much longer.
• In a reasonable worst-case scenario, HGVs could face a maximum delay of 1½-2½ days before being able to cross the border.
Immigration changes
• EU likely to have increased immigration checks at border posts. This may lead to passenger delays at St Pancras, Cheriton (Channel tunnel) and Dover.
Medicines
• With significant disruption lasting up to six months across the Channel, this will have an impact on the supply of medicines and medical supplies unless there is mitigation via other sources.
Food and water
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• The supply of certain types of fresh food will decrease. Critical elements of the food supply chain (such as ingredients, chemicals and packaging) may be in short supply. In combination, these two factors will not cause an overall shortage of food in the UK but will reduce availability and choice and increase the price, which will affect vulnerable groups.
• Public water services are likely to remain largely unaffected, thanks to actions now being taken by water companies. The most significant single risk is a failure in the chemicals supply chain. The likelihood of this is considered low.
Fuel
• Tariffs make UK petrol exports to the EU uncompetitive. Industry had plans to mitigate the impact on refinery margins and profitability, but UK government policy to set petrol import tariffs at 0% inadvertently undermines these plans. This leads to big financial losses and the closure of two refineries (which are converted to import terminals) with about 2,000 direct job losses.
Northern Ireland
• The UK would impose the “no new checks with limited exceptions” model announced on 13 March … but this is likely to prove unsustainable because of economic, legal and biosecurity risks.
Protests
• Protests and counter-protests will take place across the UK, using up police resources. There may also be a rise in public disorder and community tensions.
Perhaps with your vast knowledge
you could enlighten us on just what mitigating actions have been put in place to counter these concerns. Nah! didn't think so.
20-08-2019, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by itsme
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Has it ever occurred to you that any problems with UK preparations for brexit would be because of the lack of supervision of the civil service by the brexit government. They don't make things up.To blame (if that is the case) the civil service is just stupidity beyond redemption.
A government report on Operation Yellowhammer was leaked on Sunday, revealing the probable consequences of the UK leaving the EU without a withdrawal agreement, which is due to happen on 31 October. Here are the key points:
Transport disruption
• 50%-85% of lorries travelling across the Channel may not be ready for French customs.
• The worst disruption to the short Channel crossings might last three months, although disruption could continue much longer.
• In a reasonable worst-case scenario, HGVs could face a maximum delay of 1½-2½ days before being able to cross the border.
Immigration changes
• EU likely to have increased immigration checks at border posts. This may lead to passenger delays at St Pancras, Cheriton (Channel tunnel) and Dover.
Medicines
• With significant disruption lasting up to six months across the Channel, this will have an impact on the supply of medicines and medical supplies unless there is mitigation via other sources.
Food and water
Advertisement
• The supply of certain types of fresh food will decrease. Critical elements of the food supply chain (such as ingredients, chemicals and packaging) may be in short supply. In combination, these two factors will not cause an overall shortage of food in the UK but will reduce availability and choice and increase the price, which will affect vulnerable groups.
• Public water services are likely to remain largely unaffected, thanks to actions now being taken by water companies. The most significant single risk is a failure in the chemicals supply chain. The likelihood of this is considered low.
Fuel
• Tariffs make UK petrol exports to the EU uncompetitive. Industry had plans to mitigate the impact on refinery margins and profitability, but UK government policy to set petrol import tariffs at 0% inadvertently undermines these plans. This leads to big financial losses and the closure of two refineries (which are converted to import terminals) with about 2,000 direct job losses.
Northern Ireland
• The UK would impose the “no new checks with limited exceptions” model announced on 13 March … but this is likely to prove unsustainable because of economic, legal and biosecurity risks.
Protests
• Protests and counter-protests will take place across the UK, using up police resources. There may also be a rise in public disorder and community tensions.
Perhaps with your vast knowledge
you could enlighten us on just what mitigating actions have been put in place to counter these concerns. Nah! didn't think so.
A comprehensive list of worst case scenarios, possibilities,
Could be's, would be's, maybe's, ifs ands and buts!
Itsme, all of which will be taken care of by an intervention
as suits each case at the time if neccassary?
Regards Donkeyman!
20-08-2019, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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If you believe that ^^^ you're a complete idiot.And yes my knowledge is better than yours because I'm not posting rubbish about 50% of uk trade with the EU coming to a halt in the case if a no deal Brexit.
Read the post, no where does it mention that 50% of trade with the EU will come to a halt!!!! it does however say that it may well be delayed. Maybe that's why £300 million is being spent on trying to mitigate it.
Another cost on the brexit bill along with all the others.
Didn't see any mitigating actions that have been put in place to counter these concerns. Nah! didn't think so.
Not very good at using that so called superior knowledge in answering questions, are you. They are building up.
20-08-2019, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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A comprehensive list of worst case scenarios, possibilities,Could be's, would be's, maybe's, ifs ands and buts!
Itsme, all of which will be taken care of by an intervention
as suits each case at the time if neccassary?
Regards Donkeyman!
It's called 'a risk assessment' hee-haw and answers need to be known now not when they start having a detrimental effect, it's to late then. Business and all those that will be affected, need to know NOW
20-08-2019, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by itsme
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Read the post, no where does it mention that 50% of trade with the EU will come to a halt!!!! it does however say that it may well be delayed. Maybe that's why £300 million is being spent on trying to mitigate it. Another cost on the brexit bill along with all the others.
Didn't see any mitigating actions that have been put in place to counter these concerns. Nah! didn't think so.
Not very good at using that so called superior knowledge in answering questions, are you. They are building up.
It says between 50 and 85% ... I chose the lower figure.
As for mitigating actions, you only need them if a risk has a likelihood of happening. Its hysterical nonsense written by people like you, for people like you.
Keep up with the hysteria. Only you believes it
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