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What progress Dex?
Way too many to list on here, as you well know OGF.

Surgery itself hadn't really been developed as a science in Voltaire's time. You may wish to read up on John Hunter.
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OGF, you might be interested to read this little extract:

Throughout his life Voltaire was an ardent supporter of inoculation against
small-pox. The eleventh letter of the Lettres Philosophiques, which was first
published in 1727, is devoted to the history and description of the method. In this
letter, speaking of Lady Wortley Montagu, he remarks that if the French
Ambassador's wife had brought the secret of inoculation from Constantinople to
Paris she would have rendered an eternal service to the nation.
" Not only would the members of several noble houses such as the Duke of Villequier, the
Prince of Soubise, and the grandfather of Louis XV have escaped the disease, but 20,000 who
had died of smallpox in Paris during 1723 would still be alive." 2
In a letter to D'Argental (October 3, 1753), he alludes to the Bishop of
Worcester preaching in London in 1752 before Parliament in favour of inoculation
and showing that it saved the lives of 2,000 persons in the capital every year.
About the same time he tells the Comtesse de Lutzelbourg (October 24, 1753) that
she will never hear of any lady dying of small-pox in London, and that if he had
a son, he would have him inoculated before teaching him his catechism.
The prohibition of inoculation by an edict of the French Parliament of June 8,
1763, as the result of an address by the Attorney-General, Omer Joly de Fleury,
attributed to the action of Bouvart, an enemy of Tronchin,5 provoked bitter protests
from Voltaire. Writing to Damilaville (June, 1763) he says:-
" The absurdity of this new decree was the only one left for my dear country. . . We are
the laughing stock of Europe."
Can't copy the link, but Google advances in medicine since voltaires time and download the journal's.sage.pub that comes up in pole position.
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Yes but they are living almost twice as long. I wonder why that is?
Twice as long Scot..... My Grandad died aged 80....would he have lived twice as long if he lived today?
Although some people are living longer, they require a hand full of tablets each day and are severely handicapped....I suppose you could call it living at a push...
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Yes but they are living almost twice as long. I wonder why that is?
Better diets maybe?
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Although some people are living longer, they require a hand full of tablets each day and are severely handicapped....I suppose you could call it living at a push...
Define living though?
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07-06-2021, 11:38 AM
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Better diets maybe?
Less hard manual labour also Pixie.
Better health and safety at work...
Holland and Barratt....
The internet...
A private motor vehicle..
Clean running water...
Better sanitary conditions..
Gyms in every town. village and City....
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Less hard manual labour also Pixie.
Better health and safety at work...
Holland and Barratt....
The internet...
A private motor vehicle..
Clean running water...
Better sanitary conditions..
Gyms in every town. village and City....
Holland and Barratt!!
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Twice as long Scot..... My Grandad died aged 80....would he have lived twice as long if he lived today?
Although some people are living longer, they require a hand full of tablets each day and are severely handicapped....I suppose you could call it living at a push...
Your original post was about the 1700's OGF. I will be 84 in a few weeks and still fairly active.
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Have you never had any medical attention then Bob? Never seen the doctor, never had a jab, never had a tooth out? If you had an accident would you refuse any help then?

No, I thought not, so what's all this tosh about modern vaccines and no progress since Voltaire? What terrifies you so much about a vaccine that's been proven to be effective for millions of people with very few and very rare side effects?
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OGF, you might be interested to read this little extract:
Quote:

Throughout his life Voltaire was an ardent supporter of inoculation against
small-pox. The eleventh letter of the Lettres Philosophiques, which was first
published in 1727, is devoted to the history and description of the method. In this
letter, speaking of Lady Wortley Montagu, he remarks that if the French
Ambassador's wife had brought the secret of inoculation from Constantinople to
Paris she would have rendered an eternal service to the nation.
" Not only would the members of several noble houses such as the Duke of Villequier, the
Prince of Soubise, and the grandfather of Louis XV have escaped the disease, but 20,000 who
had died of smallpox in Paris during 1723 would still be alive." 2



I also am an ardent supporter of inoculation Dex and I have received all the usual ones including a few extra ones when Mrs Fox caught Hepatitis while caring for the elderly in a nursing home. Fortunately she recovered....
As soon as the covid vaccines have proved successful I shall probably have one of those also, but not yet!
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