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09-10-2012, 08:31 PM
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Hi Shep ...Unfortunately different people do react differently to drugs ...Statins really messed me up at times hence why they have tried so many ....I also react badly to anti-inflammatory drugs including Ibuprofen which is as common as paracetamol...
Also When i asked my doctor about my diet and Cholesterol he said it wasn't a diet issue , but the way my liver works..My cholesterol is not tremendously high but being diabetic they said they would like it lower,,,
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25-10-2012, 10:01 AM
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You might want to read this article:

"Prescription painkillers kill more Americans than heroin and cocaine combined"
Monday, September 24, 2012 by: Sherry Baker, Health Sciences Editor

The dramatic increase in mortality and overdoses from prescription drugs is largely due to a vastly increased use of these drugs by doctors. In fact, between 1999 and 2010, the sales of these Big Pharma, highly addictive and potentially killer drugs increased four-fold.

And while it is a terrible and sobering fact that, according to the CDC, about 15,000 Americans die from overdosing on prescription painkillers each year, let's put this tragedy in the larger perspective of the ongoing Big Pharma drug nightmare. The truth is, overdose deaths from painkillers are not the biggest drug problem in the US. Consider that 100,000 Americans die each year from their prescriptions due to known side-effects -- not because the doctor made a mistake and prescribed the wrong drug, or the pharmacist made a mistake in filling the prescription, or the patient accidentally took too much or overdosed on purpose.


Ask your doctor to break down your cholesterol readings and ask what part of the cholesterol is a bit high. (your doctor is heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical industry to give you chemical pills).

What is high? High Density Lipoprotein (HDL), or Low Density Lipoprotein (LDL) or your triglrrides?

HDL is often referred to as our good cholesterol, where as LDL is supposed to be bad for us. There is a lot of controversy over cholesterol, some doctors (not on the NHS) say that it is more dangerous to have low cholesterol than it is to have high cholesterol.

Our body needs good cholesterol your brain and heart is surrounded by good cholesterol.

Mike Adams suggests:
A: Despite what you may have seen on commercials, cholesterol readings are so much more than just a number pinned to your chest.
In fact, cholesterol readings are a bunch of numbers: your overall cholesterol, your LDL (bad cholesterol), your HDL (good cholesterol), your triglycerides and the all-important ratio of good-to-bad cholesterol.
Doctors look at all of these numbers as well as other risk factors (whether you're diabetic, family history, age, gender) before deciding to put you on medication.
"Looking at all these things, your doctor will come up with an ideal cholesterol treatment for you," says Dr. Srinivasan Raghavan, a specialist in geriatric medicine at St. Anthony's Medical Center.
First, do regular aerobic exercise - 30 to 45 minutes most days of the week.
Make sure less than 30 percent of your calories come from fat and less than 10 percent come from saturated fat (found in butter).
Eat two servings of omega-3-rich fish per week.

A recent study published in the "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition" shows that eating certain foods can lower your cholesterol levels just as well as taking statin drugs.

This is the second study we've seen revealing that certain foods are as effective, or even more effective, than prescription drugs in regulating biochemical markers such as cholesterol levels or in treating conditions such as chronic depression. In this particular study, researchers found that foods such as soy protein, tofu, various other soy products, plus almonds and cereal fiber, as well as plant sterols, can lower total cholesterol and especially LDL cholesterol, better than statin drugs.
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25-10-2012, 03:42 PM
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I wrote this back in 2007.
The Painkillers

The painkillers take them away
They are killing people everyday
Maybe you have a heart attack
Or pull a muscle in your back

Fall down and bang your head
Might be lump that hadn’t bled
Might be bleeding inside your skull
Bloody painkillers the pain did dull

They can do more harm than good
Take them for we are told we should
For this pain that won’t go away
The pain you get almost every day

You know it almost drives you crazy
The pills will make your mind hazy
If you take the pills the pain will go
Only to come back in an hour or so

You can’t lift your shoulder today
Take a some pills it will go away
Your knees hurt badly what can you do
Take some more pills one or two

Pills are the cause of most of your ills
Wonder how many people they kills
There will be no true figures shown
Cause of death is completely unknown

As they carry us out in our wooden box
You had been too many times to the docs
On your grave will be the inscriptions
He got to many bloody prescriptions
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25-10-2012, 04:03 PM
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I was put on statins earlier this year. My cholesteral was sky high. Was put on Simvastatin at first but hospital changed it to Atorvastatin 80mg which was a higher dosage. My cholesteral had come down with Simvastatin but they wanted it lower so changed it. I don't have any side effects with them. I was on a healthy diet before I started them and still am. I make sure I get blood tests regularly to check this.
Liked your poem Wrinkly.
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25-10-2012, 04:25 PM
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Beautiful poem and ironically funny.
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30-10-2012, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by janet gracey ->
I was put on statins earlier this year. My cholesteral was sky high. Was put on Simvastatin at first but hospital changed it to Atorvastatin 80mg which was a higher dosage. My cholesteral had come down with Simvastatin but they wanted it lower so changed it. I don't have any side effects with them. I was on a healthy diet before I started them and still am. I make sure I get blood tests regularly to check this.
But do be aware of what the science is actually telling us.

If you want to PREVENT a stroke you want to STOP your arteries being blocked by plaque and
Statin use is associated with an increased prevalence and extent of coronary plaques possessing calcium. and More frequent statin use is associated with accelerated coronary artery calcification. so using statins only makes matters worse.

When you get to a certain age the higher your TOTAL CHOLESTEROL the lower your risk of death.
Lipids and all-cause mortality among older adults
This shows a Higher mortality among older adults with low Total Cholesterol.
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30-10-2012, 11:15 PM
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Hi Ted ..it looks like you have researched this ..everything I have posted is from personal experience ..I am still suffering and it is now 8 weeks since I stopped my statins..I am very quickly fatigued ..this time last year a brisk walk into town and back was easy..now i only just manage 1 way ..5 minutes exertion and i am breathless it is slow progress but I am getting better ...It appears that statins affect the production of a enzyme called coQ10 which is linked to muscle function and strength ...THE HEART IS A Muscle, and people on statins have been shown to be at increased risk of heart failure and heart problems .....
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30-10-2012, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ukmartian ->
It appears that statins affect the production of a enzyme called coQ10 which is linked to muscle function and strength ...THE HEART IS A Muscle, and people on statins have been shown to be at increased risk of heart failure and heart problems .....
If you look at where STATINS intervene in the metabolic pathway you'll see it's upstream of the production of Ubiquiones (that's the CoQ10) and 7 dehydrocholesterol (that's turned into Vitamin D when you go in sun)
Vitamin D status not only is related to bone mineral density and regulates immune function but also muscle strength and power. So you find higher vitamin D levels associate with better lung function and higher levels of physical function.
So everyone who IS taking statins or has been taking statins (even for a relatively short time) will require daily CoQ10 and Vitamin D3 supplements for a while to restore natural levels.
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30-10-2012, 11:41 PM
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So ...why doesn't the medical profession recognise this and prescribe the required supplements to offset the side effects ?????...perhaps it is the cost !!!!..surely if we can find out this ..then the medical profession can as well ...
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30-10-2012, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ukmartian ->
So ...why doesn't the medical profession recognise this and prescribe the required supplements to offset the side effects ?????...perhaps it is the cost !!!!..surely if we can find out this ..then the medical profession can as well ...
I think it takes a long time for health professionals to get up to date with the latest research.
It's certainly not the cost of Vitamin D3 supplements as you can buy a whole years supply for around £6 from the USA and £13 in the UK and testing 25(OH)D to make sure you get to 125nmol/l is only £25 (or less)

The problem is (if you watch the whole of the You Tube lecture (link in the above post) (sorry it's a bit detailed) the doctor explains why the research is promoting drugs that mimic the action of Vitamin D because they can charge $1000 a month rather than prescribe vit d at $10~$20 a year.
 
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