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And Quavers.
I didn't know that Julie1962 is a seismologist It's her fault that fracking is causing all these earthquakes is it?
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I didn't know that Julie1962 is a seismologist It's her fault that fracking is causing all these earthquakes is it?
Yep! One seis fits all.
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03-11-2018, 05:28 PM
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Bes, I don't think The Bible is a problem. It has made me what I am today....
The Bible creates huge problems because :

a) It is misunderstood by millions of people worldwide

b) It is used out of context by nefarious religious leaders worldwide

c) A literal interpretation leads to all manner of societal problems much like the Quran


Originally Posted by wild blueberry ->
I have never done anything too wrong,
Never in jail
Never a prostitute
Never be prosecuted for theft, or anything else of that nature.
Never murdered anyone
Right and wrong are human made concepts which humans have introduced to try and control behaviours. There is no right and wrong on a universal basis. Stars explode, planets disintegrate, matter zooms into black holes. The universe simply IS, it has no morality, no right and wrong.

EVERYTHING on this planet, every living thing, requires amounts of life energy to survive, including you. Since that energy is locked within other matter, attached to it (kinda inside) then every living thing here exists by killing and devouring other living things, so that they can extract the life energy from within it. This includes you. You eat food, be it meat or vegetable, flower, fauna, fungi or fruit. All of them are living things like you, which contain amounts of life energy bound to the gross matter of their form. You kill them, you eat them, your body functions break the matter down and the energy inside is released into your own body.

You get ill, old and die because you are not getting enough of that life energy. Humans need it in large quantities to survive and stay in peak condition and stay young.

Regardless we are all murderers because to exist, we must all of us consume other living things. It is an endless cycle. The universe continually eats itself, i.e. every living thing keeps consuming every other living thing to survive. Like the Ouroboros , the snake eating its own tail.



No single thing is more important than another. It is all stuff made from the same universal life energy. If we want to maintain our current human form indefinitely then we have to find a very concentrated form of that life energy. Eating meats, fruits and veg, getting sunshine and breathing air just doesn't provide enough of that energy. From the very moment we are born, we are dying because we begin on that downward slop of being starved of the life energy we need.

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but I grew up with the Bible as my "rules for living"...and it instilled something in me, that most non-believers wouldn't begin to understand.......
So did most of us I suspect but we were taught by people who themselves had already been taught an incorrect interpretation of the Bible. Their parents incorrectly taught them and their parent's parents before tem. This is a divisive cycle that has been going on 100s of years. Only a few know the proper meaning of the Bible's allegorical, cryptic and encoded secrets.

To progress forward you have to unlearn what you have been falsely taught. The Chinese have a saying for this:

"Empty Your Cup"

Because you can not pour new tea into a tea cup that is already full.

Most people's interpretation of the Bible is totally wrong which is tragic but understandable because religion has sought to control and rule humans. They don't want people to have the Truth.

Understand, GENESIS is NOT talking about the creation of the universe. It is not talking about the Earth being created in 7 days.

It is describing the Philosopher's Stone and how to make it.
The Stone IS that substance that contains massive concentrations of life energy. It is what we all need to survive.

One could never understand what the processes are for making it from a casual reading of Genesis and other parts of the Bible but once someone tells you the Truth, it all starts to become clear.

At the very least, rational people should concede that the literal interpretation of the Bible makes no sense whatsoever. Most "Christians" can't cope with the dilemma and just sweep it under the carpet. Others wrestle hard with it in their minds. There is s reason the Bible makes no sense and often contradicts itself, and that reason is because it IS NOT supposed to be read literally. You are supposed to understand the allegorical terms it uses and what they mean.

For example the "Heavens" does not mean the place Heaven. It means the top part of an alchemist's glass flask.

The "Earth" does not mean this planet, it means a special white salt that is extracted from living matter.

The rabbit hole stands open before you but only you can jump into it.

Do a forum search for my posts and "Philosopher's Stone" and you'll find threads where I've given much more information and diagrams.

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03-11-2018, 05:38 PM
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If you are the alpha and the omega then you don't have parents. Only humans have parents.

Most people have a misconception of God. God is the life force, not a human on our level. It is an interpretation of the energy of creation, the power of the universe, the laws of nature, cutting through the crap of wishy washy imaginary beings. Unfathomable and incomprehensible to us. What has misled everyone is the bit in Genesis that says we are made in God's image.

Humans do not deal well with the intangible. You cannot dialogue directly with God (per the definition above), we are pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
I’m so with you on this.

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
It's a point of view. I have many beliefs but they are not fixed in stone. I don't see how anyone could get to the bottom of such a conundrum given our limited intellect. But if you are looking at alpha and omega then you have no beginning and end. You are infinite. Doesn't that go through science, yet it was in an ancient text. Does that not tell us that we have taken thousands of years to work out something that was there all the time?
Yes indeed.
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03-11-2018, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
It isn't what suits me.
If god exists and is omnipotent he surely could. But doesn't.
If I had the power he is purported to have, I would prevent starvation and natural disasters. Wouldn't you?
Everything isn't about us, we just think it is.
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03-11-2018, 05:43 PM
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That’s a great post too Realist but I certainly don’t wish to get into a religious debate. I believe that if humans can use religion to benefit themselves to be a better version of themselves then it’s good but either way it’s their own business what they believe and not mine to worry about.
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Everything isn't about us, we just think it is.
Yep!
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03-11-2018, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wild blueberry ->
Bes, I don't think The Bible is a problem. It has made me what I am today....

I have never done anything too wrong,
Never in jail
Never a prostitute
Never be prosecuted for theft, or anything else of that nature.
Never murdered anyone
(told a few lies, as everyone else, gossiped a bit)...but I am working on that.

I never professed to be perfect, but I am not evil that is for sure.....and I say it is a lot to do with how I was raised and how I was taught what was right and wrong, if you are going to be a good person when you mature.

There are unbelivers also who end up good people, of course, but I grew up with the Bible as my "rules for living"...and it instilled something in me, that most non-believers wouldn't begin to understand.......

I have to go now, and start on this day ahead of me. Lots to do in real life, as much as I love sitting on here and discussing something without "flying off the handle" like I used to do, and sometimes still do, but I have a few gals on this forum that understand me and guide me through my difficult times.....and Morty is one of the people and she knows that......bye for now Bes...I respect what you believe, and if it suits you, that is all that is important.......
Thank you Wild One!
Let me start at the end of your post.
My points were not about what I belief. What I have is an absence of a belief in any supernatural entity. I'm not being pedantic - I think that absence rather than a belief is a fundamental difference

I don't claim to being anywhere close to perfect either. The only offence I got a fine for was parking in a FREE car park without displaying a ticket. That cost me £25 and that was discounted from £50 because I payed promptly.

I don't have a problem with anyone believing in a god of their choice or, in some cases like my neighbours, believing in gods of their choice. I don't think it is necessary to have a belief to understand and practise sound morals. We need to do so to work as a society. That was the case before religions were invented.
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03-11-2018, 05:56 PM
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Regardless we are all murderers because to exist, we must all of us consume other living things.
Which, for the most part, would not exist if we hadn't grown or bred them.
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Which, for the most part, would not exist if we hadn't grown or bred them.
Well we are the most dangerous living thing on the planet.
 
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