09-05-2014, 03:45 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by manasota
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and I do apply that principle. I wont vote for anyone that I would be ashamed to be associated with just because they say one or two things that I may agree with.
09-05-2014, 03:47 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by Wrinkly
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Just be careful what you are voting for, stop thinking of yourself and think more of our grandkids future.
09-05-2014, 04:42 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by Pats
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Nothing at all wrong with curbing immigration is there?Are you advocating rounding up all immigrants who are already here legally and sending them to Siberia for instance?
Facism springs to mind here.
I won't demean myself in answering this Pats - your knowledge and appreciation of political idealogy and principles would appear to be very limited if not non-existent.
10-05-2014, 10:12 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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I won't demean myself in answering this Pats - your knowledge and appreciation of political idealogy and principles would appear to be very limited if not non-existent.
and seem to want to welcome mass immigration into this country. Which I understand size for size is the most overcrowded country in the EU ..apart from Malta ..
11-05-2014, 11:55 AM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by MickB
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Where did I say that? You are very good at creating straw men to argue against.Many younger people are less negative about the EU simply because they have never experienced an alternative and, as we know people can become institutionalised and don't like to challenge the status quo. Without the perspective of time, it is very difficult for people to visualise radical change. I don't know anyone of my generation who thinks that they lived in a "golden day" - far from it - which is why some of us want positive change not more of the same exploitation and corruption.
The real conservatives are people like you who hate the idea of change and cling to the dire warnings of our corporate lords and masters.
Our 'corporate lords and masters' are the international capitalists - merchant bankers like....oh yes,Nigel Farage. To change what really oppresses us requires a change to the system, the capitalist system. I'm up for this real change, are you?
11-05-2014, 12:15 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by manasota
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To change what really oppresses us requires a change to the system, the capitalist system. I'm up for this real change, are you?
11-05-2014, 12:30 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by MickB
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Very definitely, but it won't be achieved through voting for one of the three neo-liberal parties. It won't be achieved through supporting the EU rich man's club. It won't be achieved by voting for UKIP either, but it will be fun to worry the Lib/Lab/Con Tory parties.
11-05-2014, 12:53 PM
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UKIP aren't just right wing Tories, they are a pretty random mixture of people who are united only by (a) their opposition to the EU; and (b) their opposition to mass immigration. The other three Tory parties are avid supporters of both.By co-opting the three main neo-liberal Tory parties, the corporate rich have (up to now) removed any real choice from our democracy. UKIP are at least offering people a (very) limited choice, and more importantly, a chance to tell the other parties that we have had enough!
11-05-2014, 04:54 PM
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Re: Who Is Nigel Farage
Originally Posted by MickB
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Very definitely, but it won't be achieved through voting for one of the three neo-liberal parties. It won't be achieved through supporting the EU rich man's club. It won't be achieved by voting for UKIP either, but it will be fun to worry the Lib/Lab/Con Tory parties.
So where's me T.72 tank to storm the barricades comrade???
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