Second Referendum etc.

Leavers keep quoting the 17.5M who voted leave, this represents only 37%of the total electorate. I would also remind them of the 16.2M who voted remain, the 13M who didn't even vote and the 2M 18-24 year olds who were denied the right to vote due to electoral registration changes. Bearing that in mind, along with the confusion between advisory and binding referendums and the accepted untruths that (yes) both sides engaged in, I'm going to don my hart hat and set out what I would like to see.

- a second binding referendum asking to choose between remain and whatever compromise deal the Westminster parties come up with. Remember, no deal has been rejected by Parliament.

- a bar of 50.1% of the TOTAL electorate to support such a major national change such as leaving the EU. Such a result in a binding referendum would dispose of all ambiguity. there is precedence for this. The 1979 vote on the setting up of Scottish and Welsh Assemblies set a bar at 40% of the electorate voting for it, in Scotland the yes vote won but failed to meet the 40% of the total electorate mark and the idea was dropped. Other European democracies do this already.

- If the UK was an equal union of nations as it was originally supposed to be, then all the nations involved should have some sort of veto. Smaller nations than Scotland have the power of veto in the EU. I would remind folks that the DUP are a minority party in NI but appear to have a power of veto over TMs deal.

There you go, get your teeth into that but keep it constructive please, Im tired of all the name calling, Ive been guilty of that too but it does no-one any good.

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It doesn't matter that only 37% of the electorate voted leave, a majority of those who could be bothered to vote voted to leave.

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We do not need a 2nd referendum.

The majority of the electorate voted to leave - the pathetic, waste of space and money, organisation that calls itself a 'government' should respect that!

Less talk and more action is what is needed!

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You can't base the result on those who didn't vote. Why do you assume they would have voted to remain anyway?

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^^^^^

This.

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The majority is of the people that voted. Thats what a majority is... in any vote.

Besides, we already triggered Article 50 why do we need another referendum that's legally binding ?

Doesn't make sense other than to try and overturn the result of the first referendum.

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I’m not assuming that at all. I’m just saying there are ways to get rid of all the ambiguity. If you can’t agree with the 50.1% idea at least consider making it clear that this would be a binding result based on what we know now. Leave may well win again and that would be the end of it.

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But you'll never get a 100% turnout, Australia can't even manage that with compulsory voting. Glad to see you coming round to respecting the vote of the 52% majority though, well within your parameters.

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You could introduce an electoral threshold. If less than 60% of those entitled to vote are bothered to vote, it obviously it is not something to make a choice over.

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Maybe we should have a second referendum on the Welsh assembly because that was won by a much closer margin that Brexit and that wasn't legally binding either.