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Planes full of passengers landing at Heathrow and Gatwick. No health checks carried out, just a leaflet advising them what they should do. This virus is probably being brought in on every plane that lands. This pandemic will get worse unless this government gets tough and do the right things like banning all incoming flights carrying passengers from abroad. Unless they tighten up on their advisory rules and made them law then we will be stuck with this virus for a very long time.
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13-04-2020, 11:02 AM
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But that costs money....and politicians have lots of pet projects to spend the money on.
Now it's gonna cost the shirt off our backs.
I wonder how much PPE we could have stockpiled against the cost of HS2? Or Crossrail? or even 5G, basically a sysem so more people can control their homes remotely. The irony is; we've all got to stay at home now for the unforseen...
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13-04-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by big ben ->
Planes full of passengers landing at Heathrow and Gatwick. No health checks carried out, just a leaflet advising them what they should do. This virus is probably being brought in on every plane that lands. This pandemic will get worse unless this government gets tough and do the right things like banning all incoming flights carrying passengers from abroad. Unless they tighten up on their advisory rules and made them law then we will be stuck with this virus for a very long time.
Good post Ben; ALL airports should be closed until further notice. And have you noticed where most casualties are located? Mostly around international airports, London, Birmingham etc.
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13-04-2020, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by big ben ->
Planes full of passengers landing at Heathrow and Gatwick. No health checks carried out, just a leaflet advising them what they should do. This virus is probably being brought in on every plane that lands. This pandemic will get worse unless this government gets tough and do the right things like banning all incoming flights carrying passengers from abroad. Unless they tighten up on their advisory rules and made them law then we will be stuck with this virus for a very long time.
Yes BB! Ihave mentioned this on the forum earlier with little responce?
Where are these passengers dispersing to, as you say they dont seem
to be subject to any controls or proceedures to cut down risks!
Apparently they are returning from India and USA, particularly
New York???
If they were working ou there and got caught up by the so called
lockdown, then as long as they do the neccassary isolation period
I have no problem, but if they are just tourists then l think they should
be left out there or have to pay their own fares home?
I n all cases they should be compelled to be isolated for the required
period, or as you say this virus will go on forever?
Further l would point out that if they are tourists then they probably
went abroad knowing that an epidemic was coming but ignored the
advice given at that time??

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13-04-2020, 11:37 AM
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According to today's news over half of Australia's covid19 patients have recovered (Total cases in Aus: 6,360 with 3,496 recovered). It was suggested by one model that we could have zero new cases by the middle of June if the current trend continues, they claim this is because we went hard early.

The number of ICU beds is being increased from 2300 to 7000 and sufficient nurses are being retrained so each bed has a full time nurse 24 hours of the day and hopefully that the hospital system could cope with the worst case scenario. I don't know how that ties with the previous para?

It was reported on this evening's news that the situation in Britain goes from bad to worse with the country on the same trajectory as Italy and Spain and could end up as having the worst death toll in Europe.

This chart plots the deaths in different countries since the first, it was suggested as being more accurate an indicator than the number of cases because the testing regimes differ widely from country to country.



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13-04-2020, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Good post Ben; ALL airports should be closed until further notice. And have you noticed where most casualties are located? Mostly around international airports, London, Birmingham etc.
Well spotted OGF!
I hadnt noticed that, but it certainly makes you think eh!
Perhaps its blowing in the wind as they say?
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13-04-2020, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by big ben ->
Planes full of passengers landing at Heathrow and Gatwick. No health checks carried out, just a leaflet advising them what they should do. This virus is probably being brought in on every plane that lands. This pandemic will get worse unless this government gets tough and do the right things like banning all incoming flights carrying passengers from abroad. Unless they tighten up on their advisory rules and made them law then we will be stuck with this virus for a very long time.
Yes, which is why our case numbers are climbing to those of Italy.
We just don't seem able to get things right, and our own covidiots are only making matters worse.
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13-04-2020, 11:59 AM
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At the 1st indication of a deadly plague, I would add that IF planes are landing from abroad, then they should never, ever land at a civilian airport but land at a military base where they can be treated well BUT locked down tightly. The health of a nation must take priority over individual freedoms. Perhaps that sounds harsh, but it is much better than having 10's of thousands die.

If the "upper class" don't like it, then too damn bad. In fact it may do those spoiled ones some good to experience what the rest of us experience.
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13-04-2020, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
I wonder how much PPE we could have stockpiled against the cost of HS2? Or Crossrail? or even 5G, basically a sysem so more people can control their homes remotely. The irony is; we've all got to stay at home now for the unforseen...
Yes, we are good at waste, aren't we?

Crossrail, I'm not sure about but I believe that the existing underground system is pretty inadequate especially in rush hours.

I'm not sure about 5G either, other than I don't think I have any need for it. Is there any published evidence to demonstrate a definite need?

HS2, of course, is simply an egotistical power-trip on the part of our politicians. Most people would never use it and the few who could afford to couldn't possibly pay back anything like the amount of money it has already cost, let alone the rest which it is predicted to cost. It simply isn't needed.
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13-04-2020, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bakerman ->
At the 1st indication of a deadly plague, I would add that IF planes are landing from abroad, then they should never, ever land at a civilian airport but land at a military base where they can be treated well BUT locked down tightly. The health of a nation must take priority over individual freedoms. Perhaps that sounds harsh, but it is much better than having 10's of thousands die.
All arrivals in this country have to be Australian citizens or residents (all visas were cancelled weeks ago), they are escorted to a hotel in the city where they arrive and are kept in the room for 14 days. Once released they can go home however that could mean a further isolation period if their home is interstate.

It is the only way, I totally disagree with using military airfields they don't have rigorous customs, immigration and quarantine screening facilities and international terminals are doing nothing else because the borders are closed.
 
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