17-06-2020, 12:20 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by JBR
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Absolutely.A mate of mine used to use the term 'flexible morals'!
It's like a picture I have just seen on Facebook.
Is there not even any pretence of equality in this country now?
https://coodes.co.uk/blog/positive-d...qualifications.
It seems that 'positive discrimination' is indeed illegal.
However, the rules have been twisted, and a new term: 'positive action' substituted.
I continue to believe this sort of thing is unfair.
Employment should be on one basis only: the best person for the job completely regardless of colour or creed.
17-06-2020, 05:43 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Global Cases 8,264,399Global Deaths 446,135
Australia
Cases 7,370
Deaths 102
Critical 3
Cases per Million 289
UK
Cases 298,136
Deaths 41,969
Critical 395
Cases per Million 4,393
USA
Cases 2,208,400
Deaths 119,132
Critical 16,695
Cases per Million 6,673
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Victoria has recorded 21 new cases of coronavirus overnight, bringing the total number of active cases in the state to 70.
Health Minister Jenny Mikakos said 15 of the new infections were returned travellers who were already in hotel quarantine.
Of the other six cases, one is a resident at the Rosstown nursing home in Carnegie, in Melbourne's south-east.
Ms Mikakos said the 53-bed facility had gone into lockdown and residents had been restricted to their rooms.
Another is a contractor working at the Stamford Plaza Hotel, which housed returned travellers who were in mandatory quarantine.
There are now 70 active cases in Victoria
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...by-21/12362782
17-06-2020, 07:22 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53077879Hope for those in hospital fighting.
A UK trial showed the drug could save lives - the first internationally to do so - and it can be used in the NHS immediately.
17-06-2020, 09:43 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Lockdown As I see it......The Coronavirus lockdown seems to be dissolving like mist in the early morning sun, with people wandering around willy nilly in our local Tesco, although all credit to most of the old people (and I include myself with that description) most of them are wearing masks. The media, and especially the BBC, have done a sterling job in frightening the population half to death with daily reports of who has been infected and who didn't win the battle with Covid19.
Everyone has become an expert in virology and has their own theory about how the virus spreads, and how to protect oneself, including me!
The number of deaths and infections is quite high, but we didn't seem to notice in previous years when believe it or not, it was much worse. The good news is that as of today there have been 298,136 infections in the UK. How this is even possible to make any kind of forecast when in the earlier days of the virus there were as few as a couple of hundred tests being done each day! Anyway, out of a population of 68,000,000........67,701,864 have remained free of the virus....More chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightning than catching Covid....
By and large the population of the UK have been good, in fact I've been quite surprised by the response to the government's recommendations to 'Lockdown' Stay in your home - don't go to work (unless it’s in the NHS) - only go out into the fresh air for one hour to just, walk the dog, or take some exercise – do not drive – and to help you keep to these instructions, public transport has been cut to the bare minimum, all public toilets have been closed, together with pubs, clubs, gyms, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and all non essential shops....And the wearing of masks appearing on every individual over the age of fifty.
And....You must go outside at 8:00pm on a Thursday night and pay homage to the wonderful staff of the NHS by clapping until your hands are raw or beating a saucepan with a wooden spoon. Confined to barracks children (due to closed schools) have been painting rainbows on just about everything that doesn’t move, and hanging pretty coloured objects in our local woods. And people passing you on the paths and lanes shuffle away from you like a bad smell to maintain their Two Metre social spacing. Some even risk their lives by stepping out onto the road in avoidance. A two ton vehicle is less of a threat than I appear to be.
I sometimes wonder if we have all been part of some massive global experiment to see how easy it would be for the rich and powerful to control the great unwashed. I was surprised how easily we gave up our freedoms when the virus actually never reached many households, but there was one thing that did manage to permeate every household and create fear and mass hysteria, especially in the older generation, and that was the media ( and in the UK, especially the BBC) .......The power of TV , Radio and the internet......
17-06-2020, 10:25 PM
3745
Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Just a quick dash, in and out again.I am beginning to suspect that Covid-19 is not quite as easy to catch as the media has been making out.
True, I only go out to go grocery shopping and to buy cigarettes, but, fingers crossed, I have had no problem.
I can't help but wonder if those who have contracted the virus are doing something very different than the rest of us. One thing I've been noticing is that many, many people are wearing their masks covering only their mouths. (At least here in Mexico)
17-06-2020, 10:28 PM
3746
Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Lockdown As I see it......The Coronavirus lockdown seems to be dissolving like mist in the early morning sun, with people wandering around willy nilly in our local Tesco, although all credit to most of the old people (and I include myself with that description) most of them are wearing masks. The media, and especially the BBC, have done a sterling job in frightening the population half to death with daily reports of who has been infected and who didn't win the battle with Covid19.
Everyone has become an expert in virology and has their own theory about how the virus spreads, and how to protect oneself, including me!
The number of deaths and infections is quite high, but we didn't seem to notice in previous years when believe it or not, it was much worse. The good news is that as of today there have been 298,136 infections in the UK. How this is even possible to make any kind of forecast when in the earlier days of the virus there were as few as a couple of hundred tests being done each day! Anyway, out of a population of 68,000,000........67,701,864 have remained free of the virus....More chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightning than catching Covid....
By and large the population of the UK have been good, in fact I've been quite surprised by the response to the government's recommendations to 'Lockdown' Stay in your home - don't go to work (unless it’s in the NHS) - only go out into the fresh air for one hour to just, walk the dog, or take some exercise – do not drive – and to help you keep to these instructions, public transport has been cut to the bare minimum, all public toilets have been closed, together with pubs, clubs, gyms, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and all non essential shops....And the wearing of masks appearing on every individual over the age of fifty.
And....You must go outside at 8:00pm on a Thursday night and pay homage to the wonderful staff of the NHS by clapping until your hands are raw or beating a saucepan with a wooden spoon. Confined to barracks children (due to closed schools) have been painting rainbows on just about everything that doesn’t move, and hanging pretty coloured objects in our local woods. And people passing you on the paths and lanes shuffle away from you like a bad smell to maintain their Two Metre social spacing. Some even risk their lives by stepping out onto the road in avoidance. A two ton vehicle is less of a threat than I appear to be.
I sometimes wonder if we have all been part of some massive global experiment to see how easy it would be for the rich and powerful to control the great unwashed. I was surprised how easily we gave up our freedoms when the virus actually never reached many households, but there was one thing that did manage to permeate every household and create fear and mass hysteria, especially in the older generation, and that was the media ( and in the UK, especially the BBC) .......The power of TV , Radio and the internet......
I agree with so much of that, it could have been me wrote it, Foxy.
You say about people walking in the road to avoid getting near you, but I was shocked a couple of weeks ago when a couple pushed their baby in a pushchair out into the road to avoid me! It was a wide pavement as well, about 10-12 ft wide.
I also understand your thoughts about being a massive global experiment.
And as for the Thursday night ritual, I never have understood how banging a saucepan with a wooden spoon at 8 pm, helps the NHS in any way.
17-06-2020, 10:30 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Lockdown As I see it......The Coronavirus lockdown seems to be dissolving like mist in the early morning sun, with people wandering around willy nilly in our local Tesco, although all credit to most of the old people (and I include myself with that description) most of them are wearing masks. The media, and especially the BBC, have done a sterling job in frightening the population half to death with daily reports of who has been infected and who didn't win the battle with Covid19.
Everyone has become an expert in virology and has their own theory about how the virus spreads, and how to protect oneself, including me!
The number of deaths and infections is quite high, but we didn't seem to notice in previous years when believe it or not, it was much worse. The good news is that as of today there have been 298,136 infections in the UK. How this is even possible to make any kind of forecast when in the earlier days of the virus there were as few as a couple of hundred tests being done each day! Anyway, out of a population of 68,000,000........67,701,864 have remained free of the virus....More chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightning than catching Covid....
By and large the population of the UK have been good, in fact I've been quite surprised by the response to the government's recommendations to 'Lockdown' Stay in your home - don't go to work (unless it’s in the NHS) - only go out into the fresh air for one hour to just, walk the dog, or take some exercise – do not drive – and to help you keep to these instructions, public transport has been cut to the bare minimum, all public toilets have been closed, together with pubs, clubs, gyms, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and all non essential shops....And the wearing of masks appearing on every individual over the age of fifty.
And....You must go outside at 8:00pm on a Thursday night and pay homage to the wonderful staff of the NHS by clapping until your hands are raw or beating a saucepan with a wooden spoon. Confined to barracks children (due to closed schools) have been painting rainbows on just about everything that doesn’t move, and hanging pretty coloured objects in our local woods. And people passing you on the paths and lanes shuffle away from you like a bad smell to maintain their Two Metre social spacing. Some even risk their lives by stepping out onto the road in avoidance. A two ton vehicle is less of a threat than I appear to be.
I sometimes wonder if we have all been part of some massive global experiment to see how easy it would be for the rich and powerful to control the great unwashed. I was surprised how easily we gave up our freedoms when the virus actually never reached many households, but there was one thing that did manage to permeate every household and create fear and mass hysteria, especially in the older generation, and that was the media ( and in the UK, especially the BBC) .......The power of TV , Radio and the internet......
Marge and I have been self-isolating... to a point.
I certainly have because I am honoured to have both diabetes and chronic kidney disease, both making me rather more potentially susceptible to Covid-19 than most, and then of course is my age (only a youthful 67 but apparently that also goes against me).
Marge (nine years younger than me and in perfect health), on the other hand, has occasionally gone to visit her aged mother (who is also self-isolating) and has volunteered to do the supermarket shopping without my help for the sake of my health.
More recently, we have been becoming somewhat less stringent with our activities and, so far, have had no problems.
What I'm getting round to saying is that I'm not sure whether it is because we have been sensible and therefore deserve to have avoided infection, or perhaps we are just two of the vast majority!
I sometimes wonder whether it might have been very unlikely that we would have caught the disease even if we'd led a pretty normal life over the past several weeks.
17-06-2020, 11:14 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by bakerman
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Just a quick dash, in and out again.I am beginning to suspect that Covid-19 is not quite as easy to catch as the media has been making out.
True, I only go out to go grocery shopping and to buy cigarettes, but, fingers crossed, I have had no problem.
I can't help but wonder if those who have contracted the virus are doing something very different than the rest of us. One thing I've been noticing is that many, many people are wearing their masks covering only their mouths. (At least here in Mexico)
TB wasn't easy to catch, you had to be in close proximity with someone for a while. Yet it was a big killer. Still is in some areas of the world. AIDs isn't easy to catch either. Again millions have died. Covid is far easier to contract than either of those.
If you take sensible precautions you won't catch most infectious diseases.
17-06-2020, 11:26 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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If you take sensible precautions you won't catch most infectious diseases.
I have never worn a mask, but on the other hand I avoid getting close to anyone (apart from Marge!), and if anyone stupidly intentionally walks towards me, I hold my breath until well after they have buggered off.
18-06-2020, 04:49 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
The Federal Tourism Minister says short-term international visitors will probably not be allowed into Australia until at least next year.That has prompted Qantas to cancel all its international flights up to late-October, with the potential exception of flights to and from New Zealand that may be facilitated if a travel "bubble" between the two countries is put in place.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...vival/12366300
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews says the state will press on with its plans to further ease coronavirus restrictions next week, despite an apparent increase in community transmission of COVID-19.
The state has recorded a further 18 new cases, including a third Black Lives Matter protester and a "very young child" who attended a childcare centre while infectious.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...itive/12368000
Australia's unemployment rate jumped to 7.1 per cent in May from 6.4 per cent in April, with the Bureau of Statistics estimating a further 227,700 jobs were lost last month.
The loss in jobs was much larger than the 100,000 typically forecast by economists, and the unemployment rate would have jumped much higher still without another big fall in people looking for work.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...-2020/12368510
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