30-01-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MKJ
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If you nick bits and pieces of the other party's manifestos then you will become the party for all thereby disarming all your political opponents 
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30-01-2016, 02:51 PM
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Slightly OT (sorry) but did anyone hear the piece on Bernie Sanders on Radio 4 Today this morning? (Nice to hear Jim Naughtie again) Sanders is doing really well in the polls and there is even a possibility that he will overtake Hillary Clinton.This is the independent senator going for 'socialist' policies, criticising the fortunate 1%, and apparently attracting republican supporters
Deep down, I have a feeling we are all searching for 'fairness' and wish we could eliminate cheating whether it's by the mega-rich or the work-shy
31-01-2016, 12:28 PM
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It appears to me that politics has changed over the past thirty years. There has always been difference between the right and left but now it's about personalities and individual careers of politicians. The political elite has always come from the upper social bracket of university educated men, even in the Labour Party. The difference now is that Parliament has become a step in a career trajectory rather than a target and is, therefore, a short term job in which the holder qualifies for the next step in the upper reaches of finance, or some other sinecure, as a reward for services rendered.Corbyn, as a career politician of long standing is out of step with the majority, even those of his own party. He's a Labour man and stands to represent his constituents and the working/unemployed sections of the country rather than those who funded his campaign. What used to be an honorable profession has become a market for sale to the richest world players. Anyone who opposes this 'laws for sale' policy is now pilloried as 'Loony Lefty' in the right wing media and, unfortunately, many are convinced by it to the detriment of the country.
This buying of governments by vested interests of one kind or another has happened before. It always ends badly, usually in revolution or war. Which will we get, I wonder.
31-01-2016, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by moreover
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It appears to me that politics has changed over the past thirty years. There has always been difference between the right and left but now it's about personalities and individual careers of politicians. The political elite has always come from the upper social bracket of university educated men, even in the Labour Party. The difference now is that Parliament has become a step in a career trajectory rather than a target and is, therefore, a short term job in which the holder qualifies for the next step in the upper reaches of finance, or some other sinecure, as a reward for services rendered.Corbyn, as a career politician of long standing is out of step with the majority, even those of his own party. He's a Labour man and stands to represent his constituents and the working/unemployed sections of the country rather than those who funded his campaign. What used to be an honorable profession has become a market for sale to the richest world players. Anyone who opposes this 'laws for sale' policy is now pilloried as 'Loony Lefty' in the right wing media and, unfortunately, many are convinced by it to the detriment of the country.
This buying of governments by vested interests of one kind or another has happened before. It always ends badly, usually in revolution or war. Which will we get, I wonder.
Harold Wilson was no way a political elite, really down to earth, his father was unemployed for a time.
A frequent visitor to my parents house, I learnt my politics from him.
Corbyn is however a real champagne Socialist.
Privately educated from a young child, Prep School and then a fee paying Grammer School.
As for his impartiality, read my previous posts.
He received money during his election campaign for the Labour Leadership from a person closely associated with Hamas, the Terrorist Organisation.
31-01-2016, 03:23 PM
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I agree about Wilson and also some of his government. We haven't had a Labour government since then and all the good they did has since been dismantled by the Tories. Corbyn has yet to prove himself but he has not, as yet, proved himself to be a liar for sale as have Cameron, Osborne, Gove and the rest. I would rather trust someone who, at the very least, talks like an honest man than smirking crooks who care nothing for those whose lives and futures they are selling off because they won't be there when the hammers fall, they'll be raking in their rewards and out of reach of their victims behind well guarded gates.|
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