09-08-2017, 02:47 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by Bruv
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There are lots of workers for highly profitable companies that receive wages that need topping up from public funds.I am not talking about struggling businesses or start up industries but household names like the large supermarket chains.
The system is crazy when rents, council tax and wages are subsidised while the same multinational mega companies avoid tax (because they can) and still make massive profits.
Yes, parts of the system are mad, however we cannot fix that on our own, it needs International cooperation.
We could make a start however by making tax payable at the point of delivery of the goods, that would stuff the likes of Google, Apple and Amazon.
09-08-2017, 04:27 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by Bruv
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There are lots of workers for highly profitable companies that receive wages that need topping up from public funds.I am not talking about struggling businesses or start up industries but household names like the large supermarket chains.
The system is crazy when rents, council tax and wages are subsidised while the same multinational mega companies avoid tax (because they can) and still make massive profits.
09-08-2017, 07:36 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiYes, parts of the system are mad, however we cannot fix that on our own, it needs International cooperation.
We could make a start however by making tax payable at the point of delivery of the goods, that would stuff the likes of Google, Apple and Amazon.
The majority of the workers are on a part time basis, we could fix that.
There are overheads to running a business, Asda pay their rent in full, customer liability insurance in full, suppliers at the market rate, in full. Management a decent wage in full, but all the donkey work is on low pay with short hours, and subsidised by public money.
Their argument is they are efficient to lower costs for their customers, the same argument for zero hour employers .
The only thing that drives these employers is profit, their employees are a means to an end, they are just lube that oils the wheels of the money machine.
There is something very wrong with a system that puts investor dividends ahead of the worker's wages, and those wages being subsidised by the tax payer in benefits..........all fixable in the work place.
10-08-2017, 08:00 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Swimfeeder not all those who do not work are scroungers.I know several honest people who , for no reason of their own making, are unable to work, Must they be punished because people like yourself believe they are scroungers and shouldnt get help? They are in a difficult position being blamed for asking for help, called scroungers,finding it very hard to claim any benefit10-08-2017, 08:40 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by deylon
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Swimfeeder not all those who do not work are scroungers.I know several honest people who , for no reason of their own making, are unable to work, Must they be punished because people like yourself believe they are scroungers and shouldnt get help? They are in a difficult position being blamed for asking for help, called scroungers,finding it very hard to claim any benefit
10-08-2017, 08:41 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by Bruv
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I work part time in my local Asda store, employed by a maintenance company, The majority of the workers are on a part time basis, we could fix that.
There are overheads to running a business, Asda pay their rent in full, customer liability insurance in full, suppliers at the market rate, in full. Management a decent wage in full, but all the donkey work is on low pay with short hours, and subsidised by public money.
Their argument is they are efficient to lower costs for their customers, the same argument for zero hour employers .
The only thing that drives these employers is profit, their employees are a means to an end, they are just lube that oils the wheels of the money machine.
There is something very wrong with a system that puts investor dividends ahead of the worker's wages, and those wages being subsidised by the tax payer in benefits..........all fixable in the work place.
10-08-2017, 08:54 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by Bruv
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The only thing that drives these employers is profit, their employees are a means to an end, they are just lube that oils the wheels of the money machine.Whats wrong with that?????
10-08-2017, 09:41 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by galty
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Think that any one who starts a business WANTS to make a profit.Whats wrong with that?????
When they exported people from Africa to work in the sugar plantations it was for profit, the sugar industry still makes profit today, but is more ethical these days.
The part you may have missed.......
10-08-2017, 10:46 PM
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Re: Poor being attacked (yet again!!!)
Originally Posted by deylon
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Swimfeeder not all those who do not work are scroungers.I know several honest people who , for no reason of their own making, are unable to work, Must they be punished because people like yourself believe they are scroungers and shouldnt get help? They are in a difficult position being blamed for asking for help, called scroungers,finding it very hard to claim any benefit
deylon, I have posted many times that I believe that those who genuinely cannot work should be paid more and that I am willing to pay more tax to ensure that this happens.
My issue is simply with those who can work but who do not.
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