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No wonder NHS is so short of cash

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AnnieS

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14-08-2017, 09:04 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by ruthio ->

But Jeremy's expensive wee facility isn't paid for by the NHS surely?

It shouldn't be because he is not part of the NHS. The Department of Health is not an NHS organisation and has it's own funding. But it's still all public money. The more public money is spent on this sort of thing, the less there is for the public's services. I think in our current climate a bathroom for cyclists is not a priority and such spending is a lavish extravagance.

AnnieS

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14-08-2017, 09:28 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->

Yes I agree our fixation with low taxation is biting us on the bum IMO we have to accept we have to pay more and we have to pursue those who refuse.

It's not about increasing taxes. It's about ensuring that the big players are paying tax. We have a regressive tax that punishes people at the lower end of the earnings scale.

In France they have a completely different tax system with far more bands. The income tax band charged depends on your family /household size. It appears you pay more tax as a single person. Corporation tax is much higher than here.

fender

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15-08-2017, 08:48 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by Muddy ->

Like those who come from overseas and use the NHS without paying?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...tually-9307953

Yep,

And the mass immigration to the UK.
Some are too dense to ever see it though.

Judd

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15-08-2017, 08:55 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Too much is wasted on PFI and management.

fender

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15-08-2017, 09:00 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by Judd ->

Too much is wasted on PFI and management.

That as well. Managers who can't manage a carrot being paid a fortune. Too many chiefs..

Roxy

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16-08-2017, 11:35 AM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by Muddy ->

Like those who come from overseas and use the NHS without paying?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...tually-9307953

Yes very much so.....Time that door was slammed shut and firmly bolted..

ruthio

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16-08-2017, 12:09 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by Roxy ->

Yes very much so.....Time that door was slammed shut and firmly bolted..

Last time I went to my appointment at the hospital and checked in at the reception, after the usual checks on address and telephone number the girl said, "I know this is a silly question but I have to ask you...how long have you been resident in this country?"

I told her a million years.

swimfeeders

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16-08-2017, 12:34 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->

Hi

You have to compare like with like.

Our Income Tax pays for a lot of things which are charged separately in France, our NI Contributions are 12%, in france they are 30%.

The French pay more tax than we do.

Uncle Joe

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16-08-2017, 12:38 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->

Hi

You have to compare like with like.

Our Income Tax pays for a lot of things which are charged separately in France, our NI Contributions are 12%, in france they are 30%.

The French pay more tax than we do.

What has this to do with Jeremy Hunt squandering £44,000 on a new shower and khazi in his office???

swimfeeders

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16-08-2017, 01:02 PM

Re: No wonder NHS is so short of cash

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->

What has this to do with Jeremy Hunt squandering £44,000 on a new shower and khazi in his office???

Hi

It was in response to previous post on this thread.

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