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Not supported by researchers who have deconstructed the genome.
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Exactly right
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Not supported by researchers who have deconstructed the genome.
Oh Good.

Can you tell us where to read that information?
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Oh Good.

Can you tell us where to read that information?
one of many very credible sources. https://www.newscientist.com/term/coronavirus-come-lab/
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04-04-2020, 03:37 PM
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This article is in today's Daily Mail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-speed.html

Believe what you read or not, it's your choice. I've been reading around this for days on end now from all sorts of sources and I agree 100% with what's written.
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one of many very credible sources. https://www.newscientist.com/term/coronavirus-come-lab/
Yes, no unbiassed evidence there:-

"Researchers led by Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University"

No definites either way!
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And China continues its deceit and lies

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...ical-equipment
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Not supported by researchers who have deconstructed the genome.

Only those defending China and the WTO are saying that. Even the Washington Post is changing its mind over the dodgy claims this came from people eating infected bats at a Wuhan wet market, especially considering there is an infectious diseases biolab 300 yards away from it.
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04-04-2020, 04:26 PM
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An American friend of mine sent this to me. It's an article from The National Review.

Quote:
Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: ‘The Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clock’
By TOBIAS HOONHOUT

March 30, 2020 12:48 PM

Staff members wearing face masks are seen at an entrance of a shopping mall in Wuhan, the epicentre of China’s coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, March 30, 2020. (Aly Song/Reuters)

Wuhan residents are increasingly skeptical of the Chinese Communist Party’s reported coronavirus death count of approximately 2,500 deaths in the city to date, with most people believing the actual number is at least 40,000.

“Maybe the authorities are gradually releasing the real figures, intentionally or unintentionally, so that people will gradually come to accept the reality,” a Wuhan resident, who gave only his surname Mao, told Radio Free Asia.

A city source added that, based on the aggregation of funeral and cremation numbers, authorities likely know the real number and are keeping it under wraps.

“Every funeral home reports data on cremations directly to the authorities twice daily,” the source said. “This means that each funeral home only knows how many cremations it has conducted, but not the situation at the other funeral homes.”

The city began lifting its lockdown on Saturday after two months of mandatory shutdown, with a complete lift of restrictions set for April 8. Funeral homes in Wuhan have been handing out the cremated remains to families every day, but rumors began circulating after one funeral home received two shipments of 5,000 urns over the course of two days, according to photos reported by Chinese media outlet Caixin, which were later censored.

Reports of the funeral’s crematoriums working nonstop also raised questions.

“It can’t be right … because the incinerators have been working round the clock, so how can so few people have died?” a man surnamed Zhang told RFA.

Wuhan residents said the government was paying families 3,000 yuan for “funeral allowances” in exchange for silence.

“There have been a lot of funerals in the past few days, and the authorities are handing out 3,000 yuan in hush money to families who get their loved ones’ remains laid to rest ahead of Qing Ming,” Wuhan resident Chen Yaohui said, in a reference to the traditional grave tending festival on April 5.
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“During the epidemic, they transferred cremation workers from around China to Wuhan keep cremate bodies around the clock,” he added.

China has used state propaganda in an attempt to avoid blame for the spreading of COVID-19, despite reports showing how the government suppressed initial reports of human-to-human transmission and gagged Wuhan labs that discovered the novel virus resembled the deadly SARS virus of 2002-2003.
EoQ.

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China has invested billions of $ in many countries around the world to use as leverage (blackmail) to prevent countries from going against China when China does wrong. To my knowledge this tactic has been used twice in a battle of words with the UK with China threatening to pull it's money out of London (it is invested heavily in property in London) if the UK continued with it's threats. Many of the oil producing Arab countries have also done the same when it has come to international talks and decisions on human rights abuses and the Arab countries have threatened to pull their money out of London and the UK government has caved in each time.

The only reason China is powerful as it is because of the greed from business owners and shareholders. These people want to take advantage of China's cheap labour as well as wanting to sell their products to a country that has 22% of the worlds population. That means big money and of course greedy owners and shareholders want that thus it is very easy for China to say 'yes you can sell here but you must bring your manufacturing production here also'. China has extremely cheap labour and an abundance of people to make up it's workforce. A persons life is cheap in China, you die on the job, there will be over 10000 people ready to take that person's place. You remove those businesses and China suddenly becomes nothing.

The only way to hurt China is to remove all western manufacturing business and bring them back to the countries where they were originally. Threaten the country with the one thing it needs dearly...manufacturing.

If convid-19 did come from the Wuhan bio lab, there is no way the Chinese government is going to admit that, they will just lie through their back teeth and try to play the victim in that countries are trying to bully them.

A good example of the world letting China do what it wants is the situation with the Uighurs being forced to convert in re-education camps and all the world does is say 'bad China, behave'. Now compare that to Muslim illegal immigrants who are taken to detention centres to be processed in the UK and the rest of Europe. There was a massive outcry from Muslim countries, human rights groups and civil liberty groups and charities all screaming at the top of their lungs saying these people were being mistreated because they was simply being put into detention camps rather than social housing to await their fate. Many countries relented to the pressure for fear of bad PR but China and the re-education camps, still going on and the rest of the world just sits by because they do not want to upset China because of the power China holds over them.

With all that said, what I've written will just go to show that when it comes to convid-19, China will not give a damn about anyone else but itself and will blame anyone and everyone and you watch, the world will just sit by and do nothing other than just give out the usual 'Bad China, you were naughty, don't do it again'.
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I'm delighted to read that China has been appointed to a place on the UN Human rights panel so providing an unencumbered opportunity to counter so much of the usually American sourced fake news and be shown up for what it is.
 
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