17-03-2019, 11:25 AM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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That, at least, is true.
He served in Cyprus.
He had a few stories of patrols firing on each other up in the mountains.
Stories of soldiers patrolling streets and rebels taking ot shots at them down alley ways with hunting rifles.
No training can truly prepare you for that or the much more febrile and vicious campaign in NI.
My father loved the Paras, loved the Army and was proud of his service, but he knew our campaign in NI was flawed, Bloody Sunday was a tragedy and a mistake and he knew the powers that be totally abused the army in NI.
17-03-2019, 02:17 PM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by summer
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I can't believe this man is being dragged before the courts...his whole life will have been spent dreading this moment how terrible for him and his family. A ruined life for doing what he was trained to do....it's ok for those who were not their to pass judgements..Who knows how any of us would react in those situations soldiers should only be dealt with in closed military courts IMO
17-03-2019, 03:18 PM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Sorry Julie darlin' - have to disagree. This man opened fire on innocent civilians and killed two people and injured four more. The Crown Prosecution Service seem to have enough evidence to prosecute him. The other soldiers with him, also opened fire, but apparently there is insufficient evidence to prosecute them. Then there is the massacre at Ballymurphy - the guilty party there need to be prosecuted too.
17-03-2019, 03:55 PM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by Meg
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Thank you Rehab 
many people who comment on 'the troubles' have very little knowledge of what actually happened. They are unaware that British Army went in originally to prevent civil war and were welcomed by both catholics and protestants. Events escalated and so often happens in these situations terrible and events took place that are best forgotten.
We now have a new generation in Ireland, North and South who were born after 'the troubles' the last thing they need is people stirring them up with tales of years gone by and abandoned causes.
It’s time to move forward. I am relieved to hear that there is no jury and that his case will be decided by a Judge. Hopefully a man not swayed by the emotions that this case has generated.
17-03-2019, 05:01 PM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by Rehab44
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You are so right, it’s time to put ‘the troubles’ to rest. The para-military have been forgiven, their leaders sat in Parliament, Soldier F, should also be treated with compassion, and forgiven.It’s time to move forward. I am relieved to hear that there is no jury and that his case will be decided by a Judge. Hopefully a man not swayed by the emotions that this case has generated.
18-03-2019, 02:25 AM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by Moscow
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If 13 members of my community were shot dead and many more shot and injured by soldiers policing a civil rights march I would want justice and I would want answers.The soldiers lost control but I don't blame the young men holding the weapons because they were ordered to be there and were given false imtelligence ; I blame their commanders and it is they who should be on trial.
However, it is massively important that the victims and their families gain the justice that has been too long coming.
I don't believe jailing the soldier , if convicted, will help justice, but a trial and potential ( probable) conviction will.
18-03-2019, 07:22 AM
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Re: Pensioner Soldier charged with Murder in Ireland.
Originally Posted by gumbud
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that would be too biased - come off it!
Hi
Been under fire and scared gumbud?
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