26-09-2020, 01:58 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Oh it's the vets who put you under so much pressure Mups. They make you feel you are a cruel and irresponsible owner if you don't have the op. I suppose the whole pet owning arrangement is artificial though. A bit "Stockholm syndrome"
If they didn't provide this service, can you imagine what would be the result? Feral cats, and presumably dogs, roaming the streets along with all the corresponding damage and health risks.
26-09-2020, 02:13 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by bakerman
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Dogs don't seem to mind castration. If anything, they are a tad calmer.Human males are least effected by vasectomies. By the time he has a vasectomy, his brain is already "hard-wired" as being male. Personally speaking, I haven't noticed a bit of difference between before and after.
26-09-2020, 02:18 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by Aerolor
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As has been said a vasectomy is not the same as castration. Unlike castration, a vasectomy only makes a male infertile.
26-09-2020, 03:39 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by JBR
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I don't believe it's fair criticising the vets. They can't work for nothing, so don't think they're wrong charging for 'snipping' cats.If they didn't provide this service, can you imagine what would be the result? Feral cats, and presumably dogs, roaming the streets along with all the corresponding damage and health risks.
However, if we had to face the same choices for humans how would that make you feel as a man who had to agree to have children sterilised? The fact that lots of humans reproduce, cause trouble and don't provide for their families, roam the streets and cause damage and health risks - it's far greater in the human population than in the animal kingdom.
26-09-2020, 04:08 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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That's exactly the sort of thing they say to put you under pressure to agree to the op! So you feel there is no choice but to agree or be labelled an irresponsible owner. But then there are a lot of irresponsible owners out there so it's a tough one. However, if we had to face the same choices for humans how would that make you feel as a man who had to agree to have children sterilised? The fact that lots of humans reproduce, cause trouble and don't provide for their families, roam the streets and cause damage and health risks - it's far greater in the human population than in the animal kingdom.
26-09-2020, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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I don't believe it's fair criticising the vets. They can't work for nothing, so don't think they're wrong charging for 'snipping' cats.If they didn't provide this service, can you imagine what would be the result? Feral cats, and presumably dogs, roaming the streets along with all the corresponding damage and health risks.
Ey? No one has said vets should snip cats for free?
You're confusing me now JBR.
As for un-neutered dogs/cats roaming the streets with gay abandon just because they are no neutered, is just not true.
When I was a little kid they used to have the 'latch-key' dogs roaming streets, humping everything in sight, and in those days the poor puppies/kittens were then drowned at birth - ignorant and evil owners responsible though.
However, if you see a dog roaming in this country nowadays, it is usually because it has either escaped, been dumped, or is lost - nothing to do with neutering.
In all my life I have only ever had one male castrated, and that was 50-odd years ago, but being 'entire' certainly does not mean they are allowed to go roaming.
26-09-2020, 04:56 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by JBR
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Irresponsible humans should be 'snipped' too, preferably by vets so as not to tie up doctors' valuable time.
Yes, and some people have always said that should be the 'forfeit' for commiting repeated sex crimes too, like rape.
I for one, think that would be a much more feared deterrent than a few hours community service and signing a register.
26-09-2020, 05:10 PM
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Re: Extinction the facts
Originally Posted by Mups
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Yes, and some people have always said that should be the 'forfeit' for commiting repeated sex crimes too, like rape.I for one, think that would be a much more feared deterrent than a few hours community service and signing a register.
26-09-2020, 06:52 PM
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The biological sense.
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