07-02-2019, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Hi meg ,not criticising,just observing, l also noticed that anti Brexit posts seem to have ceased in 2017,and pro Brexit posts have failed off since forum format was changed,this is not necessarily a bad thing, l think the anger of us leavers is understandable but regrettable, and the anger of the few remainers appears to be morphing into anti UK sentiment, l think that if this happening within the forum, what is happening across the nation? Remember , the EU commissioners are watching this with delight,and are just waiting for UK to destroy itself so they can clean up later,l would hate to give them the satisfaction.Regards,Donkeyman.
Certainly, I'm sure the anti-Brexit sub-forum would have been populated by a small minority, though I never looked at it. I think they finally lost interest.
The same anti-Brexit few now troll any Brexit forum they can find in the vain hope of persuading the more sensible members to join their crusade!
As many have said, if the remainiacs had accepted that they lost the vote and quietly helped the country to succeed, we would all have been better off.
Unfortunately, most of them are doing all they can to thwart Brexit by trying to convince the rest of us that we are wrong. That is where the real problems rise and, you are quite right: the EU dictators are no doubt enjoying this country falling apart.
Mind you, I have every confidence that the EU will fall apart first! What will the remainiacs do then, I wonder?
08-02-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
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49 days to go...
08-02-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Donkeyman it's not the EU that's watching with delight.
This is becoming a new obsession for you ,Annie, lol!
08-02-2019, 01:43 PM
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The benefits of the EU obviously are financial stability ( see Greece for details) and now having forced everyone into hard brexit it appears they may catch a cold tooDeutsche Bank warns country's economy 'is a major disappointment'
https://mol.im/a/6682363
Factory orders fell 1.6 per cent in Dec, down by 7 per cent compared to Dec 2017
There are major concerns Germany could soon follow Italy into a recession
Increasingly likely prospect of no deal Brexit would be disastrous for Germany
German factory orders tumbled in December, the latest sign that the country's industry is not yet out of the woods as the prospect of a no deal Brexit looms.
The faster we simply leave this ship of drowning rats the better
08-02-2019, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by marmaduke
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The benefits of the EU obviously are financial stability ( see Greece for details) and now having forced everyone into hard brexit it appears they may catch a cold too Deutsche Bank warns country's economy 'is a major disappointment'
https://mol.im/a/6682363
Factory orders fell 1.6 per cent in Dec, down by 7 per cent compared to Dec 2017
There are major concerns Germany could soon follow Italy into a recession
Increasingly likely prospect of no deal Brexit would be disastrous for Germany
German factory orders tumbled in December, the latest sign that the country's industry is not yet out of the woods as the prospect of a no deal Brexit looms.
The faster we simply leave this ship of drowning rats the better
Well said.
The USA and Germany are not best friends at the moment. Germany just this week, snubbed the F-35 joint strike fighter and then ignored the USAs extradition orders by deporting a terrorist to Turkey.
Here come more tariffs !
08-02-2019, 03:48 PM
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I don't want to sound nasty, but I'm glad that the EU is now beginning to fail.They get what they deserve, especially when people like Tusk speak about us in offensive terms.
The sooner the EU collapses, the better. Perhaps then, the more sensible and forward-looking people of Europe can think about arranging a simple free-trade organisation, just like the EEC used to be.
If and when that day dawns, we must learn from history and never again let ourselves become ruled by a foreign-led political dictatorship.
It's not only us who will benefit from that, but all free European nations.
08-02-2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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I don't want to sound nasty, but I'm glad that the EU is now beginning to fail.They get what they deserve, especially when people like Tusk speak about us in offensive terms.
The sooner the EU collapses, the better. Perhaps then, the more sensible and forward-looking people of Europe can think about arranging a simple free-trade organisation, just like the EEC used to be.
If and when that day dawns, we must learn from history and never again let ourselves become ruled by a foreign-led political dictatorship.
It's not only us who will benefit from that, but all free European nations.
The true GDP figures are now starting to be exposed now the ECB isn't pumping 30 billion a month into the economy. You wonder why unemployment was so high but the economy was growing in the EU ? ... 10 years of QE which ended in December 2018, reduced from 60 billion a month to 30 billion a month.
The Euro is on the ragged edge and its not just me saying that, this has also come from Deutsche Bank. The markets are starting to go into a tail spin now the GDP figures for Germany are in decline and Italy in recession. Remember when Germany went into recession last time and we were pegged to the DM - thank God we left the ERM and never took on the Euro. It's coming again - sooner rather than later.
The bigger question for me is (and I think its bigger than Brexit) is, who in the Eurozone will blink first and bin the Euro ? The money is on Italy who are threatening once more to bring back the Lira, but France is starting to get rattled, especially since Macron isn't delivering his promises he made to his people or his banking chums. He is hamstrung by the EU who wont let him spend his own money because of his budget deficit and forced to raise taxes to punish the poor. France hate Macron - thats for sure and the problem is getting worse each week with the Gilet Jaunes now being backed by Italy and now so big they have begun having their own assembly.
Le Penn is more popular than Macron and is gaining popularity every day - who would have thought that in socialist france ?
The 5* movement and La Liga - far right ruling Italy
The AfD in Germany - the 3rd biggest party
Its all going to sh1t and Tusk, juncker, Verhofstadt and co sit there in denial and pretend everything is going to be OK.
Within 12 months they will be begging the UK for exile.
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