Re: More Deluded Corbyn Vapourware

The night shelters and hostels aren't empty but full to the extent they have to turn people away.

I do agree, though, that most - not all - beggars are after money for drugs and drink.

Re: More Deluded Corbyn Vapourware

Having dealt with a drug addict personally, I wholly endorse the OP.

Scratch the surface of any town in this country and there will be a major drug problem.

Mind, not all drug addicts are homeless - just those who have hit the bottom of the pile.

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In this town of over 100,000 people, there is one small night shelter, the next nearest town is twelve miles away. Currently in our local playing fields, in a corner spinney, is a tent with someone living in it. They appear to have some cooking facility as witnessed by there being a frying pan outside the tightly zipped up tent in the mornings. Why someone is living there I have no idea but given recent temperatures of well below zero, it cant be much fun, that's for sure.

I hate the thought of someone having to live like this during the festive season.

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Now listen to Teacher who knows absolutely everything theres is to know, even more than my mother in law.

Re: More Deluded Corbyn Vapourware

It is true!

Spend a year volunteering with the support services and being around 100s of these "homeless" (cough) people and you won't have any reservations


And you know the answer to this already. There's no money because the scumbag looney Labour government p1ss3d away the country's money and embarked on uncontrolled spending near bankrupting the country. One Mr Brown did that and also sold our gold reserves off for a pittance.

Crooks every one of them who should be strung up for treason.



NEVER AGAIN !


So the situation we see today is a practical impact/legacy of a Labour government that couldn't manage an economy, whose numbers just didn't add up and who, through their mismanagement and bloodyminded arrogance have sealed the fate of millions of Brits for years to come.

There absolutely SHOULD be lots of rehab services for these people but there are few. On the NHS they can get about 7 days of "rehab" support which is useless. It's like taking a clinically obese fatster and thinking you can change their entire life habits and food education in the space of a week.

It just doesn't happen.

Rehab is far more than just getting someone of drink or drugs for a week. It's about talking them away from the circles of people they previously mixed with (who would otherwise put them straight back on drink/drugs), and as a consequence it's about giving them new people to interact with, new interests, things to get involved with, helping them get skills for employment and giving them some sense of purpose.

The NHS just gives them a week of tame rehab and then releases the addicts back into the same social underground.

It's a hopeless situation for these people once they are in it.

But HOUSING there is aplenty. There are emergency shelters who will take people right now, tonight, 100%.
There's a myriad of shelters and services who will accommodate them for long periods of up to 6 months or more. Some of them operate progression schemes where initially the "guests" are accommodated in a mixed commune type situation, they have their own bedrooms but shared lounges and kitchens etc. When they've been there long enough and proven willing and able to get along peaceably, they move into self contained flats where they manage themselves, do their own cooking etc.

There's a ton of services out there. People know the main ones like the Salvation Army but there are hundreds more.


The "homeless" situation is a political con, a convenient fairy story told by unscrupulous politicians who know that the primary stable electorate are utterly clueless about the reality.

Street beggars ARE NOT homeless. They are there to work, to earn money for their drink/drug habits. They choose to be there instead of in available housing because they want any benefits they get to go towards drink/drugs.

That's how it is

That's how it is going to stay

For a very long time

Unless the drugs industry is ruthlessly stopped

Unless proper long term rehab services are provided.

Re: More Deluded Corbyn Vapourware

Whereas making sweeping statements that do not stand up to much scrutiny, hiding your shortcomings with insults and ad hominem attacks does???

Re: More Deluded Corbyn Vapourware

Hi

Universal Credit is not the big issue with rough sleeping.

I repeat, you need to do your research.