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Re: Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

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A brief word from Keir Starmer.....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1316318200380960768

Captain Hindsight strikes again.

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Boris Johnson has split from his top scientists on coronavirus

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/13/u...gbr/index.html

There was a time when Boris Johnson claimed his government was following the science at every step of its plan for dealing with the coronavirus.

But as the number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in the UK soars once more, and the country braces for a long, miserable winter, the British Prime Minister appears to be at odds with those same advisers he once placed front and center of the pandemic response.

His Chief Medical Officer on Monday night poured a bucket of very cold water over his latest plans to tackle a worrying upturn in the spread of the coronavirus in the UK. And On Tuesday he was facing further criticism after it emerged that his group of top scientific advisers recommended three weeks ago a significantly tougher package of measures than even he now plans.

Johnson, it seems, is trapped by his bitterly divided Conservative Party -- faced down by the hawks, such as his finance minister Rishi Sunak, who want to keep the economy as open as possible and doves, who think tough measures now would be better in the longer run.

His attempts to walk that tricky line were evident in a press conference on Monday evening. Instead of introducing a short, sharp "circuit breaker" lockdown, advocated by experts who want to disrupt the current rate of transmission immediately and buy the country time before a difficult winter, Johnson outlined a three-tiered system of lockdown measures, to be applied locally according to the number of reported cases in a given area.

Even the top tier of these new restrictions is a far cry from the hard lockdown that Johnson introduced in March. Children will still attend schools, restaurants will be allowed to remain open and it will be up to local authorities to decide whether other parts of the hospitality sector must close.
Of course, the USA has its' own problems with a leader who has overseen 8,093,600 COVID-19 infections and allowed 220,900 COVID-19 deaths ..... ..... a view from abroad is, nevertheless, IMO, always welcome .....
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Re: Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

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The American view:

Boris Johnson has split from his top scientists on coronavirus

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/13/u...gbr/index.html



Of course, the USA has its' own problems with a leader who has overseen 8,093,600 COVID-19 infections and allowed 220,900 COVID-19 deaths ..... ..... a view from abroad is, IMO, always welcome .....
If Obama was in power there would be millions of deaths. Look at the disaster they made with MERS and SARS

The big problem the USA has is the Democrats that won't allow their people to receive the funding they need.

Americans under trump have done much better than 8 years of Obama ... go on prove me wrong
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Re: Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

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If Obama was in power there would be millions of deaths. Look at the disaster they made with MERS and SARS

The big problem the USA has is the Democrats that won't allow their people to receive the funding they need.

Americans under trump have done much better than 8 years of Obama ... go on prove me wrong
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What mess who made of MERS and Sars?
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Re: Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

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What mess who made of MERS and Sars?
The Obama administration. If Covid was handled in the same way millions would be dead.
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Re: Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

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The Obama administration. If Covid was handled in the same way millions would be dead.
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Really ?

SARS 2002 to 2004 USA 29 confirmed cases, no deaths.

MERS 2014 2 cases no deaths.

Obama wasn't even President in 2004.

Covid

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...r100klast7days


7,787,548 cases in the USA, 214,446 deaths.

The facts are somewhat different to your statements.
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Re: Covid: Sage scientists called for short lockdown weeks ago

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Hi

Really ?

SARS 2002 to 2004 USA 29 confirmed cases, no deaths.

MERS 2014 2 cases no deaths.

Obama wasn't even President in 2004.

Covid

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...r100klast7days


7,787,548 cases in the USA, 214,446 deaths.

The facts are somewhat different to your statements.
Obama should thank his lucky stars MERS was not as deadly as COVID-19 if it was then millions will be dead. It was because of him and Biden the stocks of PPE were never re-plenished in the first place.

Do you honestly believe Obama and Biden who did nothing for 8 years would have done a better job than Trump ? When Trump wanted to close the borders to China he was accused of being a racist and he was blocked for weeks - the same when he wanted to close immigration from Europe when the virus was spreading like wild-fire. The democrats in the meantime were protesting in large groups over BLM etc, spreading it even more when they were told not to assemble in large groups and would not support the lock-down of the USA. Even now Pelosi won't sign off on the 1.8 Trillion in funding from the government - can you believe it ? They hate Trump so much that they would allow vulnerable people (the one they are supposed to represent) suffer rather than do what he says.

Obama was a disaster for the USA with Biden.
 
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