Join for free
Page 5 of 7 « First < 3 4 5 6 7 >
Longdogs's Avatar
Longdogs
Chatterbox
Longdogs is offline
SW England
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 43,957
Longdogs is male  Longdogs has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 05:50 PM
41

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
Back to foreign aid.

If this really worked, wtf are there so many adverts on TV begging us to sign up for monthly subscriptions for Water Aid, various vaccine programmes, eye diseases, etc, usually in countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sudan, Ethiopia, etc?

I reckon these ads just go to prove that most of the foreign aid money DOESN'T get to where it's actually needed.
And what parent sends their little girl six miles to get a bucket of sludge? Either move closer or get it yourself you lazy buggers.
Longdogs's Avatar
Longdogs
Chatterbox
Longdogs is offline
SW England
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 43,957
Longdogs is male  Longdogs has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 05:52 PM
42

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

The thing is, no one likes us whether it's in Europe or in Africa, so let's stop sending them money and spend it here instead.
Bread's Avatar
Bread
Chatterbox
Bread is offline
Sudbury, United Kingdom
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 10,656
Bread is male  Bread has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 05:59 PM
43

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
The thing is, no one likes us whether it's in Europe or in Africa, so let's stop sending them money and spend it here instead.
Yeah exactly
JBR's Avatar
JBR
Chatterbox
JBR is offline
Cheshire, UK
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 32,785
JBR is male  JBR has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 07:39 PM
44

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
And what parent sends their little girl six miles to get a bucket of sludge? Either move closer or get it yourself you lazy buggers.
Yes, that occurred to me too when they used to put that advert on.

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
The thing is, no one likes us whether it's in Europe or in Africa, so let's stop sending them money and spend it here instead.
Absolutely true. In fact, the more I hear in the news I can't think of any country which actually does like us, but certainly not the ones we keep sending money to. In fact, I'm sure their rulers quietly laugh at us behind our backs.
Judd's Avatar
Judd
Chatterbox
Judd is offline
West Riding of Yorkshire
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 12,538
Judd is male  Judd has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 07:54 PM
45

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
The thing is, no one likes us whether it's in Europe or in Africa, so let's stop sending them money and spend it here instead.
No argument from me.
Dodge's Avatar
Dodge
Senior Member
Dodge is offline
Kent, UK
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,117
Dodge is male  Dodge has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 09:36 PM
46

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

The last I read about the foreign aid pledge, only 4 countries was meeting the pledge, the UK being one of them. The rest of the countries just cannot be bothered and no one is telling them to meet their legal requirements.

There are worst countries in Europe who don't give anything to help the worlds poor or contribute the less but MP's and do-gooders never complain about these countries.

There are more countries in the Europe that contribute more to killing the environment than the UK but again, MP's and do-gooders never go after these countries.

There are worst countries in Europe who do far less to support immigration and asylum but again MP's and do-gooders never go after these countries.

In 2019, apart from the UK, the other countries meeting the 0.7 per cent commitment were: Denmark, Luxembourg, Norway and Sweden
https://institute.global/policy/uks-...aid-commitment
Why aren't our MP's having a go at the countries who signed up to the agreement but have not met it. I don't see any MP or do-gooder having a go at France, or Germany, or Spain, or Italy and neither of those countries have ever met the 0.7% aid pledge but yet as soon as the UK government say it is going to reduce foreign aid, out come the complainers. They kept very very quiet about all the other countries not meeting their pledge but as soon as the UK decides to stop theirs, whoosh, out come the complainers.

The UK and it's people was not put on this earth to solve the rest of the worlds problems. It's about time these aid receiving countries started to learn to stand on their own two feet and if corruption and crime prevents that then sorry, but's that not our problem.
JBR's Avatar
JBR
Chatterbox
JBR is offline
Cheshire, UK
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 32,785
JBR is male  JBR has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
16-07-2021, 09:46 PM
47

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
The last I read about the foreign aid pledge, only 4 countries was meeting the pledge, the UK being one of them. The rest of the countries just cannot be bothered and no one is telling them to meet their legal requirements.

There are worst countries in Europe who don't give anything to help the worlds poor or contribute the less but MP's and do-gooders never complain about these countries.

There are more countries in the Europe that contribute more to killing the environment than the UK but again, MP's and do-gooders never go after these countries.

There are worst countries in Europe who do far less to support immigration and asylum but again MP's and do-gooders never go after these countries.

Why aren't our MP's having a go at the countries who signed up to the agreement but have not met it. I don't see any MP or do-gooder having a go at France, or Germany, or Spain, or Italy and neither of those countries have ever met the 0.7% aid pledge but yet as soon as the UK government say it is going to reduce foreign aid, out come the complainers. They kept very very quiet about all the other countries not meeting their pledge but as soon as the UK decides to stop theirs, whoosh, out come the complainers.

The UK and it's people was not put on this earth to solve the rest of the worlds problems. It's about time these aid receiving countries started to learn to stand on their own two feet and if corruption and crime prevents that then sorry, but's that not our problem.
I agree with all of that.

Why do our MPs seem to do all they can to sell this country out?

It's as if they are trying to sell themselves as being generous and showing the world that they'll do everything else to support the world, with the obvious exception of the British people.

Until we get rid of the current crop of MPs in parliament, this country is doomed to fail.
Dodge's Avatar
Dodge
Senior Member
Dodge is offline
Kent, UK
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,117
Dodge is male  Dodge has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
17-07-2021, 11:46 AM
48

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Foreign aid has always been used as political leverage. A classic example of this was India and it's tender for new military aircraft to replace it's ageing aircraft. Many many years ago, India decided to update it's ageing military aircraft and the contract was put out to tender. A number of countries put their bids in, France, the US, the UK, Germany being the preferred bidders. At the time, the tabloid press were running articles stating that the UK government was extremely confident of winning the multibillion pound contract.

For weeks and then months the story kept appearing in the press with the same comments being made, that the UK government was supremely confident that the UK would win the contract. In amongst the articles would appear stories that the UK government was being overly confident of winning the contract because of the amount of foreign aid gives to India which is way way more than what other countries give to India. So on it went and then it got down to the last to bidders, the UK and France and still the UK government was confident of winning the contract but guess what, the contract went to France and the UK government was furious.

Out came the tabloid press articles claiming that the UK government believed that they was convinced they was going to get the contract because of all the help the UK has given to India but it back fired spectacularly.

Foreign aid has and also will be used as political leverage.
Vlad's Avatar
Vlad
Senior Member
Vlad is offline
West Midlands UK
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,536
Vlad is male  Vlad has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
17-07-2021, 01:49 PM
49

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

A luxury car dealership in London boasts about checking a Rolls Royce Phantom onto a plane at Heathrow destined for Zimbabwe for ‘one of our very good clients, who’s a minister there’

With the cut back in Foreign Aid he will have to struggle along with a Mercedes next year.
Dextrous63
Chatterbox
Dextrous63 is offline
Manchester, UK
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 7,727
Dextrous63 is male  Dextrous63 has posted at least 25 times and has been a member for 3 months or more 
 
17-07-2021, 02:43 PM
50

Re: Foreign Aid Cut

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
Foreign aid has and also will be used as political leverage.
Dodge, in the case involving India that you cited, did the UK then withdraw its aid? If not, then maybe it should have done on the basis not only of making a point, but also that some of the money that the Indian Govt might have had to spend on it's own domestic affairs (and which was being covered by aid) would now be handed to the French. Ie, UK aid is being handed to the French by proxy.
 
Page 5 of 7 « First < 3 4 5 6 7 >



© Copyright 2009, Over50sForum   Contact Us | Over 50s Forum! | Archive | Privacy Statement | Terms of Use | Top

Powered by vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.