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21-05-2016, 09:47 AM
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Re: NHS -v- TTIP

Memories are very short on here. In the 1980s Thatcher detached all GPs from the NHS and made them into private businesses, where patients had to re-register and become customers. Anyone who hadn't registered with the surgery they had been under since birth could no longer seek medical help there.
She shut down and sold off hundreds of hospitals and reduced the size of many others while giving cash and planning concessions to private companies to build new ones. Calculating the cost of every bed shut, she added that to the NHS annual budget as extra government money paid in from the public purse, rather than stolen from it.
She also banned prescriptions of the more expensive drugs and enforced GPs to substitute cheaper and less effective drugs, even when it was know they would very likely kill the patient.
It amazes me that so many people have forgotten the damage the Thatcher era cause and the many unneccessary deaths that resulted. Apart from her election campaign in the Falklands islands, of course, that won her the next election and destroyed many more lives and brought the country to the brink of bankruptcy when the Monetarist system adopted from the Bush cabal allowed the banks to implode and our credit disolve overnight.
I hold no brief for Blair but to give him credit, it was he who brought back GPs into the NHS and started to rebuild our hospitals. His greatest mistake was using PFI to do it but, unfortunately, the Tories had left him with nothing in the bank to pay for it.
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21-05-2016, 10:06 AM
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Re: NHS -v- TTIP

Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
The talk about the Coservatives wanting to privatise the NHS has been around a lot longer than the last coalition government. The problem is the NHS is a big black hole that swallows cash. The last Labour government tried throwing money at it an that didn't work. I suspect you could channel the whole of the UKS GDP into the NHS and it still would run out of money.
What it needs is some proper responsible management, if a business was run in the way they would be out of business within a week.
Indeed, and far less of it. I wonder just what proportion of the money is spent on shuffling papers compared to that spent on healing people!
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21-05-2016, 11:08 AM
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Re: NHS -v- TTIP

Originally Posted by moreover ->
Memories are very short on here. In the 1980s Thatcher detached all GPs from the NHS and made them into private businesses, where patients had to re-register and become customers. Anyone who hadn't registered with the surgery they had been under since birth could no longer seek medical help there.
She shut down and sold off hundreds of hospitals and reduced the size of many others while giving cash and planning concessions to private companies to build new ones. Calculating the cost of every bed shut, she added that to the NHS annual budget as extra government money paid in from the public purse, rather than stolen from it.
She also banned prescriptions of the more expensive drugs and enforced GPs to substitute cheaper and less effective drugs, even when it was know they would very likely kill the patient.
It amazes me that so many people have forgotten the damage the Thatcher era cause and the many unneccessary deaths that resulted. Apart from her election campaign in the Falklands islands, of course, that won her the next election and destroyed many more lives and brought the country to the brink of bankruptcy when the Monetarist system adopted from the Bush cabal allowed the banks to implode and our credit disolve overnight.
I hold no brief for Blair but to give him credit, it was he who brought back GPs into the NHS and started to rebuild our hospitals. His greatest mistake was using PFI to do it but, unfortunately, the Tories had left him with nothing in the bank to pay for it.
Any chance of seeing anything to backup those dubious claims.
Some people seem to lay the blame for everything at Margaret Thatcher's door which is obviously untrue.

You no some people say that she was responsible for closing for the closing of the pits when the facts say that more pits were closed under labour than ever were under the Conservatives.
In the same way the facts will not bear out any of your claims.
So far as your NHS claims are concerned if you care to look around many countries run successful health services using a mixture of public and private funding.
 
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