06-12-2016, 10:39 AM
11
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by Meg
->
Could the EU implode ?I think it will certainly change under pressure however, nothing happens very quickly in the EU are there are lots of eurocrats who wish to protect their own privileged positions and will fight any change tooth and nail.
This was typified by an interview on Newsnight last night between Evan Davis and a european commissioner called László Andor who insisted nothing happening anywhere in Europe indicated there were any problems within and anyone daring to suggest such a thing was misreading and misrepresenting the true state of affairs. The EU seems to be made up of people like Andor who have built a career for themselves in Europe and don't want anything to spoil their cosy well proved for existence.
OF course they don't ..... take Neil kinock ... possibly the most useless thing in the Labour Party ( certainly up there with mr foot and mr Corbin ) ..... a life long euro lord .... and his wife and indeed even his son ..... all billionaires for life at our expense and unelected too ...... a mad crazy club morphed without any mandate ever 'from the people' .....
The eu talks as if trade /migration /business would never happen without it ..... well actually it was doing quite well before the eu and will do it again long after it as sovereign nations with governments accountable to their own electorate ...... ever so simple really
06-12-2016, 10:40 AM
12
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by Meg
->
Could the EU implode ?I think it will certainly change under pressure however, nothing happens very quickly in the EU are there are lots of eurocrats who wish to protect their own privileged positions and will fight any change tooth and nail.
This was typified by an interview on Newsnight last night between Evan Davis and a european commissioner called László Andor who insisted nothing happening anywhere in Europe indicated there were any problems within and anyone daring to suggest such a thing was misreading and misrepresenting the true state of affairs. The EU seems to be made up of people like Andor who have built a career for themselves in Europe and don't want anything to spoil their cosy well proved for existence.
Analysts, in the telegraph today, are reminding us that the Euro seems to be the root of problems within the EU.
They are pointing out that some countries, like Germany and others, are cleaning up whilst others are losing as the and that the Euro is to blame.
No surprise there then!
06-12-2016, 10:44 AM
13
Re: Could the eu implode ?
The World has gone mad.We do not really need all these imported nor exported goods
People have become greedy and mercenary
During World War 11 we survived when all this was at a minimum.
And ‘Yes Had no Bananas’
I took one voice crying in the wilderness to organise Brexit.
It people of the UK work hard and take pride in their Country, Britain will become Great once more
06-12-2016, 10:44 AM
14
Re: Could the eu implode ?
https://youtu.be/da0RsYe85YIJust one example of a family raking it in ...... we vote them out of our politics and they simply go meddling elsewhere unelected for life on the eu gravy train
How anyone could agree to remaining in the eu is beyond me
https://youtu.be/NfAhbYfF-wQ
06-12-2016, 10:46 AM
15
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by marmaduke
->
It routinely rivals the USA and China in terms of GDP. In addition the EU spends more globally, creating jobs in otherwise poorer nations.Only last night I was listening to programme on radio 4 and that was saying about Albania and it being a member of the eu and the good it brings to Europe except ..... half of its GDP today is cannabis .... most of the weed in the eu is grown in Albania , most of the kids aren't even doing college as they are busy working on cannabis farms .... how great it is being in the eu with open borders means they shift the stuff by the ton so yes I imagine the eu works for some businesses
Albania is not a member of the EU.
The Republic of Albania is an official candidate for accession to the European Union since June 2014. Officially recognised by the EU as a "potential candidate country" in 2000, Albania started negotiations on a Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA) in 2003.
06-12-2016, 10:49 AM
16
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by Flicker
->
Albania is not a member of the EU.The Republic of Albania is an official candidate for accession to the European Union since June 2014. Officially recognised by the EU as a "potential candidate country" in 2000, Albania started negotiations on a Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA) in 2003.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...?client=safari
Britain would be obliged to pay nearly Ł1.8 billion by 2020 to encourage Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey to join the EU, according to research from Vote Leave.
The UK government agreed to pay Ł169.5 million a year under the EU’s Instrument for Pre-Accession Assistance, plus a further Ł640 million to Turkey under the recent deal.
Vote Leave chair Gisela Stuart, a Labour MP, said: “Rather than sending money abroad to countries that want to join the EU I believe we should be spending our money on our priorities here in the UK.
“Instead of giving an extra 88 million people - more than our entire population - access to the NHS I believe it would be safer to take back control.”
06-12-2016, 10:56 AM
17
Re: Could the eu implode ?
And remoaners want to stay ?https://youtu.be/NfAhbYfF-wQ
The faster we inhabit mars the better as we can send the eu onwards and upwards
06-12-2016, 10:56 AM
18
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by Tedc
->
Hi Meg,Analysts, in the telegraph today, are reminding us that the Euro seems to be the root of problems within the EU.
They are pointing out that some countries, like Germany and others, are cleaning up whilst others are losing as the and that the Euro is to blame.
No surprise there then!
In any society, in any country including the UK, there are winners and losers. Even in Russia just after the revolution.
Even in China during the most extreme communist legislation.
IN th e UK if you think that leaving the EU will suddenly relieve Boris, Farage, May and all the other pro Brexit nobs of their wealth, think again.
If you think all those chairpersons of Boards will suddenly se the light, declare all their income, pay up with a big smile and see you down the pub, think again.
The rich will get richer. Brexit will make sure of that. The world is a hugely complicate place where those who can go and do anything they want.
The Euro is a small player in the great scheme of things. What also matters is the value of the dollar and the yuan. The value of the euro always moves according to those.
In the long run it has made the EU a very wealthy successful trading bloc.
and finally if the euro is a serious problem, it can be redefined. Many things will be redefined in the not too distant future.
06-12-2016, 10:59 AM
19
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by Azure
->
The World has gone mad.We do not really need all these imported nor exported goods
People have become greedy and mercenary
During World War 11 we survived when all this was at a minimum.
And ‘Yes Had no Bananas’
I took one voice crying in the wilderness to organise Brexit.
It people of the UK work hard and take pride in their Country, Britain will become Great once more
No thanks.
Nor do I wish that on any young people either...the ones brought up to want it all and want it now.
If you REALLY want a revolution, take that away from them.
06-12-2016, 11:02 AM
20
Re: Could the eu implode ?
Originally Posted by Tedc
->
Hi Meg,Analysts, in the telegraph today, are reminding us that the Euro seems to be the root of problems within the EU.
They are pointing out that some countries, like Germany and others, are cleaning up whilst others are losing as the and that the Euro is to blame.
No surprise there then!
I have never liked a collective of countries dictating to the UK what it should and shouldn't do and our paying for the privilage just so we can belong to their exclusive club.
EU eurocrats dictating what our farmers should grow (remember the butter and grain mountains), what fish we can catch and who can fish our waters (rules only adhere to by some), what laws should apply and on and on it goes.
I am sick of people saying leaving the EU is all about immigration it isn't althogh the open border policy of the EU has facilitated not only the free movement of labour between EU member states but also of illegal immigrants.
The sooner we get out of there the better...
|
|
