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17-04-2021, 11:07 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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It's about respect for the sacredness of life and our own soul. Most people cannot see sacredness or value inside themselves and believing in a power outside themselves is both humbling and empowering, because although they find it hard to love themselves they can bask in the symbolic universal power and love that's outside them. Also realise that they do not control everything because there is a higher power beyond our control. Some call it the universe others a god or gods.

All religions are psychological methods to help us cope with the chaos and unpredictability of life. But the commandments are basically about focusing people away from chaos and distraction and keeping them on a path that will bring them the most fulfilling life. Having self esteem, focusing on one moral compass point, getting on with others by not engaging in anti social behaviour, focusing on one's own well being, having a day off to rest and focus on the sacred in life, etc.

But the first three are about keeping your own soul focused on the divine rather than getting carried away with materiality and attachment to things that lead you away from a wholesome life.

I'm not a religious nut or anything. I just used to think about this a lot and those are the conclusions I came to. That it doesn't matter proving that theres's a deity, but it does matter that you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater by poo pooing all religion because of religious people who maybe had the wrong view of it in your early life.

So my main point was that these days a lot of people do not have any focus on the sacred or any principles in life and that's because religion has been eroded out of existence. But I do believe that many are still guided by religious rules of behaviour that have been handed down in generations such as having good manners (or good grace as they would have been called at one time).
If those are your beliefs Annie then I am happy you have found a way to believe in something that you call God!
I believe that the only thing that controls life is nature. Everything has evolved to become what they are now & in turn, when we die, our bodies should return to the earth as animal compost which will allow future life to survive on earth.
It is a sad fact that humans have become lazy & selfish, so we all want more, and this leads to lack of respect for our own species. What makes it worse is the fact that religions are just different tribes who lie to their followers & convince them that there will be good life after death, whilst the leaders of those tribes are making sure they get a good life now, because their ideas may be wrong!
In my opinion all religion is a pack of lies created by people who wanted power & control of others. They have shown people how easy it is to become controllers & taught them to get rid of respect and manners, especially to a different religious tribe!
We are just seeing the early stages where good people look for reasons why some can't show respect to the rest of their species. Eventually they will realize that if we don't get rid of the bad ones, respect for others will completely disappear.( so "Thou shalt no kill" should say "unless they have killed others"..... but we are all too soft to do that )
Maybe that is why I have more respect for animals that just kill for food, rather than people who don't care who else suffers, so long as they can get what they want from life
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17-04-2021, 11:16 AM
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[QUOTE=OldGreyFox;2074755]
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We ARE changing. A new society is emerging, it's not one I like in no small part because it's based on everyone being equal irrespective of race,colour, or creed which is total rubbish, combined with Socialism which is fundamentally flawed.

Live with it. It's unlikely to roll back.[/QUOTE]

I agree, it's out with the old and in with new.....
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I can't, that is just me, it is the way I lived my life, the way I was bought up, respect and protect those less fortunate than myself.

If you are old and weak others do not have the right to mug you for your Pension Money.

You should expect to be hurt by the relatives of the oldies you have terrorised, you should expect your life to become a misery, to be as scared of going out as the oldie you terrorised.

That is natural justice.

I will not have my life be made a misery by scumbags and I do not expect anyone else to suffer because of them.

I have very strong views on this, it is basic right and wrong.

It is a part of British Life we need to respect and protect.

Even in my current state of ill health I would not stand back and let a woman or child be abused.

That is simply not me.
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17-04-2021, 11:23 AM
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Hi

I live in Shrewsbury, a lovely, historic market town with stunning architecture and lots of small independent shops.

Even here, the yobs are taking over.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...rewsbury-plan/

There is a lack of action by the Statutory Bodies, not just the police but the Housing Associations Councils, Social services etc.

We are more concerned about the rights of pillocks than the rights of those they affect.

We need to change.
I agree.

Half measures. The criminals laugh at them.

Yet no-one with the authority to make changes will stick their neck out...

...because they themselves are unaffected.
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17-04-2021, 11:34 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Hi

I can't, that is just me, it is the way I lived my life, the way I was bought up, respect and protect those less fortunate than myself.

If you are old and weak others do not have the right to mug you for your Pension Money.

You should expect to be hurt by the relatives of the oldies you have terrorised, you should expect your life to become a misery, to be as scared of going out as the oldie you terrorised.

That is natural justice.

I will not have my life be made a misery by scumbags and I do not expect anyone else to suffer because of them.

I have very strong views on this, it is basic right and wrong.

It is a part of British Life we need to respect and protect.

Even in my current state of ill health I would not stand back and let a woman or child be abused.

That is simply not me.
It is not part of British Life any longer. Britain has changed, different values, different just about everything. It is terribly sad but when "people" from third world countries are permitted to enter they bring the third world with them and adopting a multicultural ethos here means we have to live in increasingly third world country here.

Yet ANOTHER bit of Blair's legacy.
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17-04-2021, 11:44 AM
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Well I blame the hippies.... oops that's you lot!
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17-04-2021, 02:40 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->

It is not part of British Life any longer. Britain has changed, different values, different just about everything. It is terribly sad but when "people" from third world countries are permitted to enter they bring the third world with them and adopting a multicultural ethos here means we have to live in increasingly third world country here.

Yet ANOTHER bit of Blair's legacy.
Sad but true. Britain is becoming a third-world country bit by bit. I wonder just how far it will go before some brave soul does something to stop it and, hopefully, even reverse it.
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20-04-2021, 09:09 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Hi

I live in Shrewsbury, a lovely, historic market town with stunning architecture and lots of small independent shops.

Even here, the yobs are taking over.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...rewsbury-plan/

There is a lack of action by the Statutory Bodies, not just the police but the Housing Associations Councils, Social services etc.

We are more concerned about the rights of pillocks than the rights of those they affect.

We need to change.
Swimmy, Your post reminded me of yesterday when l parked over the road from the magistrates court. I had to keep returning to my car with shopping as l wanted to go to the park.
Each time, I noticed the people that swaggered out of the court looked happy and were laughing. One even stopped to chat to a beggar and gave him money!
I thought if you go to court and you’re guilty, you are going to be shaken and devastated.
Not these days!
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20-04-2021, 09:38 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

[QUOTE=The Artful Todger;2074779]
Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->

It is not part of British Life any longer. Britain has changed, different values, different just about everything. It is terribly sad but when "people" from third world countries are permitted to enter they bring the third world with them and adopting a multicultural ethos here means we have to live in increasingly third world country here.

Yet ANOTHER bit of Blair's legacy.
In parts of cities where there is a large Indian Pakistani population, they hang their laundry out over bushes and trees, older people sit on walls or the kerb, kids run around in bare feet, staring at you silently when you walk by. I wandered into a street like this purely by accident (ok, I was lost, heh!) and was quite shocked by the sight and seemingly hostile stares of everyone.
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20-04-2021, 09:52 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->

Sad but true. Britain is becoming a third-world country bit by bit. I wonder just how far it will go before some brave soul does something to stop it and, hopefully, even reverse it.
What can you do ?
The small country town near where I live has just had its public loos vandalised again . The most damaged was the disabled toilet who’s door was wrecked and a fire started inside .
There was much comment on this on the local website . I put they should get out the stocks and put the perpetrators in them until they beg for a loo!
My comment was removed as being ‘unkind’.
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20-04-2021, 10:06 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

Originally Posted by Artangel ->
Swimmy, Your post reminded me of yesterday when l parked over the road from the magistrates court. I had to keep returning to my car with shopping as l wanted to go to the park.
Each time, I noticed the people that swaggered out of the court looked happy and were laughing. One even stopped to chat to a beggar and gave him money!
I thought if you go to court and you’re guilty, you are going to be shaken and devastated.
Not these days!
Can relate to that, some come out behaving as if they have just had a few rounds in the pub, and that is precisely where they head for, the nearest just around the corner, to celebrate.
 
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