03-12-2015, 04:13 PM
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" There is currently scant detail about Tashfeen Malik, the (alleged ?) second shooter, but San Bernardino police chief Jarrod Burguan said she was 27 years old.Mr Burguan said:
"We're pretty comfortable that the two shooters that went into the building are the two shooters deceased on San Bernardino Avenue."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...no-gunman.html
hmmmmm "pretty comfortable"
Hell, despite thousands of books, inquiries, documentaries etc etc etc
after 52 years they still don't know for sure who killed Kenedy !
03-12-2015, 04:26 PM
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HiThere are a lot of Americans who do want the Gun Laws changed, however the way the system works is such that it is not going to happen.
The thing that I do find strange however is that fully automatic military assault weapons are readily available.
The sole purpose of these things is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest possible time.
They are even allowed open carry in at least one State.
It must be a trifle strange to take your kid to McDonalds for a Happy Meal to find a bloke with an assault rifle at the next table.
Just my thoughts, the two sides are so entrenched I cannot see any way forward.
03-12-2015, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by clumsy
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This man too also served in the US army, remember him?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Hasan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynndie_England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Corll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Steven_Kraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Lake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Shawcross
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Sowell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Clark
http://murderpedia.org/male.N/n/norris-roy-lewis.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_M._Heidnik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Unruh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Keyes
http://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/acremant-robert.htm
http://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bladel-rudy.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bonin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Harvey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J...rial_killer%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Naso
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Rolling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Gene_Simmons
http://murderpedia.org/male.K/k/kazmierczak.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld
03-12-2015, 04:57 PM
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Well what would one expect ?A major role of the military is to teach people to kill.
By its very nature, it also teaches that violence is an acceptable course of action.
Further, it discourages independent thought with its insistence on obeying orders.
And we must remember too that these bods all served in the U.S. "might-is-right" military.
03-12-2015, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone
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Well what would one expect ?A major role of the military is to teach people to kill.
By its very nature, it also teaches that violence is an acceptable course of action.
Further, it discourages independent thought with its insistence on obeying orders.
And we must remember too that these bods all served in the U.S. "might-is-right" military.
03-12-2015, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone
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Well what would one expect ?A major role of the military is to teach people to kill.
By its very nature, it also teaches that violence is an acceptable course of action.
Further, it discourages independent thought with its insistence on obeying orders.
And we must remember too that these bods all served in the U.S. "might-is-right" military.
Well it makes a change from you picking on Brits. Gee ... there seems to be only one country in the world who is head and shoulders above the rest of us bumbling Neanderthals.
03-12-2015, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Advantage Out
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I repeat: ... it wasn't Farook who was in the American military. It was his brother.
Not specifically about Farook.
03-12-2015, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Advantage Out
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... but then, what you are saying is that Bush ought never have been allowed to apply for the presidencey. The illegal invasion of Irak was certainly "on the cards" from a former, American military man for the reasons you've already provided.
03-12-2015, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Morticia
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Well it makes a change from you picking on Brits. Gee ... there seems to be only one country in the world who is head and shoulders above the rest of us bumbling Neanderthals.
Only the irrational, generic Muslim-haters amongst them.
I assure you, I have more problems with the warmongering (as a nation) Yanks than I do with Poms who pretty much just fight amongst themselves.
And I am well aware of the many flaws in successive Australian governments (if that's what you meant)
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