Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

I think the decision is down to the mother, if she wants to risk it, let it be solely her decision. It is her body and the child really doesn't have a say until it is born.
Anyway what is wrong with withdrawal at the right moment, surely this is the method that is adopted.

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

Main problem with that is you can get pregnant before man ejaculates so it doesn't work.

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

This really, in a round about way, highlights the problem with lots of religions in that they are based on out-dated doctrines. Sticking religiously (forgive the pun) to rules and regulations (cos that is what religions are more or less) that applied long ago and were based on the needs of the day shouldn't be applied today - unless they are still pertinent that is and very few seem to be.

In other words religions of the day really need to adapt and grow up to meet the needs of 'modern man' and our over populated world else bow out of the equation altogether.

There really lies the quandary as indeed they are based on old text which many consider unimpeachable.

Just my opinion of course .

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

Being a Christian I look at the Bible and try to transcribe what I read to what I think Jesus would do and say today, with all our changes in society and how we have moved forward educationally and scientifically I think he would have the same message but with key differences on equality and contraception etc. Where some people (and you find them in all religions) go wrong is reading the Holy books as instruction books to be obeyed.

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

A better approach for sure.

I have added another line to my reasoning now.

So you are excused lol. Nice one.

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

who says the mother is being murdered? define murder

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

What would mother nature dictate.

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

Undoubtedly if the baby was exposed to the affects of 'mother nature' alone it would simply die. But with technology as it stands now and improving daily? Who knows.

This really is our modern day dilemma. Technology allows people to live longer than they should. For countless millions in overpopulated countries to outlive famine, drought and natural disasters. For the old and sick to live on and on in pain. For badly deformed babies to survive indefinitely. There is no limit to what doctors can achieve nowadays. Does it make it right though?

Seems to be a lack of firm common sense guiding principles that we can adhere to so that all are treated with compassion and fairness.

Please don't give me a comeback stating any sort of religion as that is very old hat as far as I'm concerned.

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

Oi - ya get wat ya gets here - don't say wat we can say or not OK?

Re: The mothers rights or the childs rights?

Wouldn't have thought you would pay any attention to my little warning anyways . Bet it has never stopped you before...