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22-12-2020, 05:00 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
There IS no evidence that covid MK2 did originate in Britain, in fact the precise opposite.
This is typical of you Todger.
Evidence that this mutation came from South East England is overwhelming but because that would further undermine your extreme right wing views and deny an opportunity to demonise foreigners you carry on.

At least 40 other countries have travel bans with the UK as a direct result of the UK mutation. I suppose you know better.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...he-uk-12169686
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22-12-2020, 05:07 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

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Keep looking.

This took less than a minute.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ccine-74826269
Was referring, in general, to other things you've claimed.

However, thank you for the link. See, it really didn't take much effort on your part to provide evidence of an assertion.

Now, while you're on a role, how about evidencing how the new covid strain started abroad ( which counters the articles provided by Annie), and then some specifics of how the spread to the uk is significantly due to illegal immigrants?

Neither the map you provided a link to, nor the associated article, made any reference to illegals.
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22-12-2020, 05:17 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

Originally Posted by Reality1 ->
This is typical of you Todger.
Evidence that this mutation came from South East England is overwhelming but because that would further undermine your extreme right wing views and deny an opportunity to demonise foreigners you carry on.

At least 40 other countries have travel bans with the UK as a direct result of the UK mutation. I suppose you know better.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...he-uk-12169686
Not true.

"The new strain can be traced to South America eight months ago"
"Studies show that the mutation, called N501Y, was spotted in the South American country (Brazil) in April, before later rearing its head again in Australia and the US."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...l-last-spring/
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22-12-2020, 05:24 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
Was referring, in general, to other things you've claimed.

However, thank you for the link. See, it really didn't take much effort on your part to provide evidence of an assertion.

Now, while you're on a role, how about evidencing how the new covid strain started abroad ( which counters the articles provided by Annie), and then some specifics of how the spread to the uk is significantly due to illegal immigrants?

Neither the map you provided a link to, nor the associated article, made any reference to illegals.
It would seem that joined up thinking not to mention data analysis is becoming a very rare skill.
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22-12-2020, 05:43 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

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Not true.

"The new strain can be traced to South America eight months ago"
"Studies show that the mutation, called N501Y, was spotted in the South American country (Brazil) in April, before later rearing its head again in Australia and the US."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...l-last-spring/
Typical Torygraph. Didn't see any evidence because there won't be any and I'm not paying to read that drivel.
So they are saying it was spotted in Brazil one of, if not the worst COVID managed country on the planet 8 months ago.
Never really spread there but got to Kent in the last couple of months and spread like wild fire and now the world are blaming the UK unfairly?
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22-12-2020, 05:52 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

Just goes to show you.....



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/t...n-b440466.html

Why, I wonder. hasn't a travel ban been placed on Denmark and the Netherlands, who also have the new variant?
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22-12-2020, 05:58 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

Originally Posted by Reality1 ->
Typical Torygraph. Didn't see any evidence because there won't be any and I'm not paying to read that drivel.
So they are saying it was spotted in Brazil one of, if not the worst COVID managed country on the planet 8 months ago.
Never really spread there but got to Kent in the last couple of months and spread like wild fire and now the world are blaming the UK unfairly?
In a word - yes.
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22-12-2020, 06:00 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

The odds are that this UK mutation had to happen in a country with poor Covid management.
It could easily have been Brazil under Bolsenaro, USA under Trump but as it turned out it was UK under Bozo.
In all these cases right wing, populist leaders have not sought to eliminate the virus as they have in New Zealand, Vietnam, South Korea, China. Instead they have prioritised their economies and "managed" it a level to avoid unwanted headlines to appeal to their voter base and their childish egos.
With Bozo we have had herd immunity, corrupt PPE and test&trace, "eat out to help out". Gimmick after gimmick and lie after lie.

Covid never went away and now it seems it has mutated for the worse which is what happens if you have enough of it for long enough.
Bozo already has blood on his hands in the UK and now his incompetence is spreading global. He will never learn or change we need better.
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22-12-2020, 06:05 PM
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Re: Covid new strain.

Originally Posted by Reality1 ->
The odds are that this UK mutation had to happen in a country with poor Covid management.
It could easily have been Brazil under Bolsenaro, USA under Trump but as it turned out it was UK under Bozo.
In all these cases right wing, populist leaders have not sought to eliminate the virus as they have in New Zealand, Vietnam, South Korea, China. Instead they have prioritised their economies and "managed" it a level to avoid unwanted headlines to appeal to their voter base and their childish egos.
With Bozo we have had herd immunity, corrupt PPE and test&trace, "eat out to help out". Gimmick after gimmick and lie after lie.

Covid never went away and now it seems it has mutated for the worse which is what happens if you have enough of it for long enough.
Bozo already has blood on his hands in the UK and now his incompetence is spreading global. He will never learn or change we need better.
Could have been worse for you Jocks, you might have had to rely on The Fishwoman!
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22-12-2020, 06:16 PM
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Disgusted with France and S.Ireland. We were going to give a test to all lorry drivers with the help of the Army, but France now saying our Testing is not to be trusted, Eire also keeping their travel ban to 31st December.

A curse on both of them!
 
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