03-07-2020, 03:54 PM
31
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Solasch
->
And the EU should thank you for that. These 24,000,000 kilo live in EU waters.
Oh, and BTW, why do you use so many *?
03-07-2020, 04:48 PM
32
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Solasch
->
Norway is negotiating with the EU about reciprocal quota. Norway refuses to do the same with the UK in absence of a EU UK deal on fisheries. Just saying.
We don't need reciprocal quota and we aren't in the single market like Norway is (although that looks to change soon and the UK and Norway will control pretty much all the fisheries).
My bet is Norway leave the single market altogether because it gets nothing the EU as well.
Then you will have nothing.
03-07-2020, 07:26 PM
33
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Bread
->
Your quotas from Norway are based on zonal attachment as ours will be. Your celebrating failure again.We don't need reciprocal quota and we aren't in the single market like Norway is (although that looks to change soon and the UK and Norway will control pretty much all the fisheries).
My bet is Norway leave the single market altogether because it gets nothing the EU as well.
Then you will have nothing.
Generally speaking, for instance as regards farmed salmon, it would seem that following Brexit the competition between the UK and Norway as regards sales in the EU might intensify – and that the advantage the UK currently enjoys as regards completely free market to EU access could disappear.
03-07-2020, 07:32 PM
34
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
->
I suggest not (look at the photo I attached to my post) but, if that were the case, why is Barnier demanding a fisheries agreement? If all those fish live in EU waters, then they're there for the EU's trawlers to take today. So, you're wrong again.Oh, and BTW, why do you use so many *?
03-07-2020, 10:32 PM
36
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Bread
->
Your quotas from Norway are based on zonal attachment as ours will be. Your celebrating failure again.We don't need reciprocal quota and we aren't in the single market like Norway is (although that looks to change soon and the UK and Norway will control pretty much all the fisheries).
My bet is Norway leave the single market altogether because it gets nothing the EU as well.
Then you will have nothing.
Your so called new concept of zonal attachment is based on scientific data, which the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has begun to calculate for the UK. But it rarely gives a precise answer to the question of what fish belong where – which is perhaps why the EU and Norway, which have claimed to apply the zonal attachment principle for four decades, have never disclosed the exact methodology behind their calculations. Imagine a herring which is spawned in Norwegian waters, spends some time off the Dutch coast, and then is eventually caught in the UK’s EEZ. Which zone should it be counted under?
The answer – and thus the exact split of quotas between the UK, the EU, and Norway – could be amenable to political fudge.
03-07-2020, 10:48 PM
37
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Bread
->
Your talking bollocks again.Your getting more and more hysterical by the day and making up random theories that make no sense. You might want to start with reading the UK fisheries bill then you might stop making a complete twat of yourself.
03-07-2020, 11:05 PM
38
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Solasch
->
The combined*EU fishing*fleets land about 6 million tonnes of*fish*per year, of which about 700,000 tonnes*are*from*UK waters.*That is including what the UK fishers catch in UK waters.
So the amount of all caught fish in UK waters can be set at ca. 700.000 tonnes.
UK*vessels landed 724 thousand tonnes of sea*fish*into the*UK*and abroad with a*value*of £980 million.
If no EU vessels are allowed anymore in UK waters, it seems logical the UK vessels will no longer be allowed in EU waters.
Now, if UK fishers catch all fish available in UK waters, 700.000 tonnes, they still get less than the 724.000 tonnes they catch while being an EU member.
So where is the logic in the fisheries debate?
fish you catch (steal) from around Africa and other underdeveloped
places around the world Solly!!
Your super trawlers clean up these areas anr when they have depleted
one area they move on to the other and so on!
Fortunately some of these nations are getting wise to you and some
have banned your ships allready??
6 more months and you will be out of our waters and out of our
hair!!
Donkeyman! 👍👍😁😁👍👍
04-07-2020, 12:05 AM
39
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
->
The 6 million ton catch you claim as eu catch is made up of thefish you catch (steal) from around Africa and other underdeveloped
places around the world Solly!!
Your super trawlers clean up these areas anr when they have depleted
one area they move on to the other and so on!
Fortunately some of these nations are getting wise to you and some
have banned your ships allready??
6 more months and you will be out of our waters and out of our
hair!!
Donkeyman! 👍👍😁😁👍👍
A wide berth did you give them
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...lers-r5dwrfx8z
04-07-2020, 07:37 AM
40
Re: EU Overfishing UK waters??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
->
Maybe so Swimmy?But what it does is to broaden uk's economic base which is too
finance centric!
It puts the coastal communities back in charge of their own
destiny again instead of relying on handouts from westminster?
The income generated will be directly distributed to the locals
with no interventions by bankers or government needed!
And the figures l saw for what the EU fishing in OUR waters
is nearly 7billion per year? So why cant uk have the benefit of
that?
We could even increase that by careful management instead of
allowing every Tom,Dick & Alphonse to come in with super trawlers
and destroy the sea bed in their efforts to maximise as is happening
right now!! As you well know!!
Our whole coastline would be rejuvenated with no need for dole
payments etc? There are so many spin offs from this l am surprised
you cant see any of them??
One thing we agree on is, we will soon find out!!
Donkeyman! 👍👍😁👍👍
Fisheries are important politically, they are ours and we should control them.
On that we agree.
Financially they are minuscule, even if we took them all back.
We are not as a Nation ,suddenly going to change our eating habits.
What they are important for is simply this.
They are ours, it sends a strong Political Message to the EU that they can swan off and we are in charge now.
We are not here to subsidise the lifestyle of French Fishermen.
|
|
