18-05-2020, 04:38 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Solasch
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If in britain legal costs consist almost exclusively of solicitors fees, just as in continental countries, then we can agree. If in britain legal costs cover more, it implies the law in britain is for the rich, not for the poor.
You should read your articles before you post them, then you won't look a complete idiot when they are explained to you
18-05-2020, 04:54 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Bread
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So according to you, we are under the thumb of the EU for many years because of solicitors fees You should read your articles before you post them, then you won't look a complete idiot when they are explained to you
18-05-2020, 05:04 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Your country was convicted by an international court. That court has jurisdiction over you for 4 years after 31 december 2020. Should I elucidate on that?
No it doesn't at all.
We left the EU in January and all the treaties. We are only bound by the WA which ends at the end of this year.
We are not under the thumb of the ECJ at all. Your argument is about solicitors fees - its hilarious.
18-05-2020, 05:10 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Bread
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No it doesn't at all.We left the EU in January and all the treaties. We are only bound by the WA which ends at the end of this year.
We are not under the thumb of the ECJ at all. Your argument is about solicitors fees - its hilarious.
ARTICLE 87
New cases before the Court of Justice
1. If the European Commission considers that the United Kingdom has failed to fulfil an
obligation under the Treaties or under Part Four of this Agreement before the end of the transition
period, the European Commission may, within 4years after the end of the transition period, bring
the matter before the Court of Justice of the European Union in accordance with the requirements
laid down in Article 258 TFEU or the second subparagraph of Article 108(2) TFEU, as the case
may be. The Court of Justice of the European Union shall have jurisdiction over such cases.
2. If the United Kingdom does not comply with a decision referred to in Article 95(1) of this
Agreement, or fails to give legal effect in the United Kingdom's legal order to a decision, as referred
to in that provision, that was addressed to a natural or legal person residing or established in the
United Kingdom, the European Commission may, within 4 years from the date of the decision
concerned, bring the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union in accordance with the
requirements laid down in Article 258 TFEU or the second subparagraph of Article 108(2) TFEU,
as the case may be. The Court of Justice of the European Union shall have jurisdiction over such
cases.
18-05-2020, 05:19 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Like many, you haven't realised what boris signed you up on. From the WA you name in your post:ARTICLE 87
New cases before the Court of Justice
1. If the European Commission considers that the United Kingdom has failed to fulfil an
obligation under the Treaties or under Part Four of this Agreement before the end of the transition
period, the European Commission may, within 4years after the end of the transition period, bring
the matter before the Court of Justice of the European Union in accordance with the requirements
laid down in Article 258 TFEU or the second subparagraph of Article 108(2) TFEU, as the case
may be. The Court of Justice of the European Union shall have jurisdiction over such cases.
2. If the United Kingdom does not comply with a decision referred to in Article 95(1) of this
Agreement, or fails to give legal effect in the United Kingdom's legal order to a decision, as referred
to in that provision, that was addressed to a natural or legal person residing or established in the
United Kingdom, the European Commission may, within 4 years from the date of the decision
concerned, bring the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union in accordance with the
requirements laid down in Article 258 TFEU or the second subparagraph of Article 108(2) TFEU,
as the case may be. The Court of Justice of the European Union shall have jurisdiction over such
cases.
We are not in the EU.
We are not answerable to the ECJ, like I said before it will be ignored
18-05-2020, 05:59 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Yeah, that's sure to make you a trustworthy trade partner.
Whats the ECJ got to do with the UK ? It has no juristiction with the UK or any other country outside the block.
You've been told time and time again that the UK is not agreeing to be governed by Brussels. Its irrelevant and will be ignored
18-05-2020, 06:06 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Bread
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Whats the ECJ got to do with the UK ? It has no juristiction with the UK or any other country outside the block.You've been told time and time again that the UK is not agreeing to be governed by Brussels. Its irrelevant and will be ignored
18-05-2020, 06:15 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Solasch
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It does on any law regarding EU trade rules. In case of the UK specifically till 1 januari 2025. That is what boris signed you up to. Hard to accept, but there it is.
Its in the withdrawal agreement that ends on 31 Dec.
You will be ignored - trust me, you will.
18-05-2020, 07:42 PM
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Re: Aaron Banks
Originally Posted by Solasch
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It does on any law regarding EU trade rules. In case of the UK specifically till 1 januari 2025. That is what boris signed you up to. Hard to accept, but there it is.
Donkeyman! 😁😁
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