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23-07-2018, 08:08 PM
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No problem. Let Eire set up the border. We don't need it.
Not if we abolish all tariffs we don't .......but that might not help our farmers due to the massive subsidies etc EU farmers get.
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23-07-2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Not if we abolish all tariffs we don't .......but that might not help our farmers due to the massive subsidies etc EU farmers get.
But we could subsidise our own farmers once we are free. We shall be saving ourselves a lot of money, after all.
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23-07-2018, 09:08 PM
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Hi

If we abolish all tariffs we cannot do so just on the Irish Border.

Under WTO Rules, the Most Favoured Nation, we would have to abolish all tariffs on goods from every country.

They would not be obliged to reduce all Tariffs on UK Goods.

We could prevent a hard border in Northern Ireland by having Border Checks when the goods reach mainland UK.

The DUP refuse to accept this.

Mr Varadkar is also playing silly idiots.
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23-07-2018, 09:29 PM
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Does anyone here actually understand WTO rules?
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23-07-2018, 11:23 PM
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Does anyone here actually understand WTO rules?
It's not us that have to, whether the negotiators understand anything about them is what worries me.
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24-07-2018, 01:39 AM
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It was the answer your pathetic post deserved , to be fair......

' Isn't time running short for any deal? I mean aren't supposed ( sic) to be out by next march?'

Poor quality post......I know you've not many brain cells to spare after all your vitals kick in but come on!

Must try harder!

Good to see you still taking an interest and well done on spotting an error; those Adult Literacy classes are certainly paying off for you.

Even better - a bit of Latin! Very impressed with your progress. Convention has it that you use square brackets and an ellipsis is usually three dots (sometimes four if there is a full stop) but doubtless these finer points will come with time. Keep up the good work.
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24-07-2018, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce ->
Good to see you still taking an interest and well done on spotting an error; those Adult Literacy classes are certainly paying off for you.

Even better - a bit of Latin! Very impressed with your progress. Convention has it that you use square brackets and an ellipsis is usually three dots (sometimes four if there is a full stop) but doubtless these finer points will come with time. Keep up the good work.
Oooooft......That was an embarrassing read!

I'm cringing on your behalf!
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24-07-2018, 07:32 AM
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Re: Brexit and the EU

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

If we abolish all tariffs we cannot do so just on the Irish Border.

Under WTO Rules, the Most Favoured Nation, we would have to abolish all tariffs on goods from every country.

They would not be obliged to reduce all Tariffs on UK Goods.

We could prevent a hard border in Northern Ireland by having Border Checks when the goods reach mainland UK.

The DUP refuse to accept this.

Mr Varadkar is also playing silly idiots.
Which means we couldn't compete with the tariffs the EU places on Agri-products ( up to 22%).

If we unilaterally impose no tariffs on the EU , we also have to do that for every other nation that trades with us but ( as per WTO rules).......without a free trade agreement the EU does NOT have to remove tariffs on our products going in to the EU.

Therefore , I think I'm right in saying tht removing all tariffs is only good if part if a free trade agreement so that our goods being exported are also exempt !
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24-07-2018, 05:56 PM
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Re: Brexit and the EU

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Which means we couldn't compete with the tariffs the EU places on Agri-products ( up to 22%).

If we unilaterally impose no tariffs on the EU , we also have to do that for every other nation that trades with us but ( as per WTO rules).......without a free trade agreement the EU does NOT have to remove tariffs on our products going in to the EU.

Therefore , I think I'm right in saying tht removing all tariffs is only good if part if a free trade agreement so that our goods being exported are also exempt !
Hi

Yes, spot on.

No Free Trade Agreement means that if we remove all our Tariffs, we must remove them from all.

They have no need to reduce theirs.

It means all our Imports will be Zero Tariff, but all our Exports will be subject to Tariffs and Non Tariff Barriers.

No other WTO Member has ever done that, simply because it is Financial Suicide.

Both the biggest Economies in the World, the USA and China, have never even contemplated that, and for good reason.

They are not idiots, No Dealers are.
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18-11-2018, 12:55 AM
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Whatever happened to the much-lauded British backbone? The Junkers, Merkel’s, Macron’s and Tusk’s are just as scared of losing their positions over this Brexit debacle as any British MP within our government. So 27 nations are opposing our intentions to leave, but we should only concern ourselves with the main protagonists who are Germany, France, and Poland. The remainder are inconsequentially divided with their individual political concerns as to be unimportant at this stage.

Angela Merkel’s tenure is almost at an end and Macron’s political future is questionable at best. Best we zero in on these two to achieve what kind of a result we want by some serious opposition to their frequent demands and fear campaigns. Theresa May has weathered a political turmoil, not always of her own making over the entire process, but there is no disputing that deep down she would prefer remaining within the EU. For this, we need a real leader whose heart is firmly behind a Brexit strategy that will work to the advantage of the UK as a complete entity.

It is time to get the appropriate leader and negotiating team in place to start playing the down and dirty politics the EU employs. Start by making emphatic demands rather than proffering appeasement gestures and unnecessary compromises. The present situation with its total lack of purpose, objectivity, and progress is making us the laughing stock of the world. These people are not our friends; their only interest is in the £ 40 billion they expect to receive at the final reckoning, although there are no legal grounds for their monetary demands. There may be moral ones but nothing enforceable. There should be no talk of money until all our requirements are satisfactorily met and agreed.

Our government needs to grow some spine by letting the EU know we are united and resolute in what we want and cannot be dictated to by a jumped up totalitarian regime. Let loose the dogs of verbal war around that negotiating table and watch them fold as they always have done when confronted by the British spirit of our past. Cometh the man or woman of the moment – who will it, be?
 
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