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Originally Posted by Barry ->
I do despair of this continual griping from the regions saying that they didn't vote for Brexit. As supposed members of a democracy they show very little knowledge of what that means if the result doesn't suit them. Take Scotland for instance, they voted in a democratic referendum two years ago and decided to remain as part of the UK. But the UK in it's entirity then voted in a refendum to leave the EU, so the scottish voted as part of the UK which they wished to remain a part of, and not as an independent Scotland.

I do wish someone would explain this, to the Fish woman in particular and to the other leaders of the devolved regions and tell them to stop their continual bitching and get with the program....
The rest of the UK accounts for 63% of Scotland's exports. The EU accounts for only 16% and the rest of the world 21%
http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic...ESSPublication
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Exactly. We should not knock our own legal system which is one of the most principled and least corrupt in the world. Particularly so because they were under huge political pressure to give a different verdict but stuck to the letter of the law.
Spot on

Would have liked a different verdict but the LAW right or wrong was up held.
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25-01-2017, 09:27 PM
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Yes it was never going any other way with several of the judges openly pro eu. To say it's unbiased system is madness, we need to make it so by voting for them IMO
Rubbish.
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25-01-2017, 11:46 PM
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Strange how three of them saw a different letter of the law, though, isn't it?
That's a very good point JBR!

Would you have accepted the verdict if all 11 judges agreed?
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Re: Supreme Court Brexit Ruling: Government Must Consult MPs Over Article 50

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That's a very good point JBR!

Would you have accepted the verdict if all 11 judges agreed?
I'd accept it, as I accept this ruling, but I'd certainly be more convinced they were acting solely according to the law.

When different judges make different decisions, it worries me that they may be letting their personal wishes influence them.
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26-01-2017, 10:40 AM
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Re: Supreme Court Brexit Ruling: Government Must Consult MPs Over Article 50

The operative word is "interpreting" which tends to be done based on the personal experience, emotions, feelings and outside influences etc of the person concerned. That's the same whether you are a judge or and ordinary mortal like us. Its part of being human and its why we have arguments on here and they arrived at different conclusions.
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26-01-2017, 11:24 AM
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Re: Supreme Court Brexit Ruling: Government Must Consult MPs Over Article 50

Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
The operative word is "interpreting" which tends to be done based on the personal experience, emotions, feelings and outside influences etc of the person concerned. That's the same whether you are a judge or and ordinary mortal like us. Its part of being human and its why we have arguments on here and they arrived at different conclusions.
I would agree with that on a criminal case, but on this topic there should be no grey areas... the PM either can or cannot start Article 50. There should be no emotions involved because it is either black or white, which therefore justifies JBR's comment on why 3 judges thought differently.
If this law is written to allow different interpretations, then it should not be considered a valid law and should be rewritten.
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26-01-2017, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
I would agree with that on a criminal case, but on this topic there should be no grey areas... the PM either can or cannot start Article 50. There should be no emotions involved because it is either black or white, which therefore justifies JBR's comment on why 3 judges thought differently.
If this law is written to allow different interpretations, then it should not be considered a valid law and should be rewritten.
Completely agree !
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Hi

There are many laws which are badly written, this was one of them.
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26-01-2017, 11:59 AM
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Re: Supreme Court Brexit Ruling: Government Must Consult MPs Over Article 50

Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
I would agree with that on a criminal case, but on this topic there should be no grey areas... the PM either can or cannot start Article 50. There should be no emotions involved because it is either black or white, which therefore justifies JBR's comment on why 3 judges thought differently.
If this law is written to allow different interpretations, then it should not be considered a valid law and should be rewritten.
Except there are grey areas. Since we don't have a written constitution, written down in, shall we say Black and white. it is open to interpretation, There is nothing which defines clearly and concisely who gets to trigger article 50, just that it has to be done..

The Judges have made the ruling based on their own experience and preferences, Therefore as I said previously what decides things is your/their own judgement which may or may not agree with your neighbour's.

Its more to do with the constitution or lack of a written on which is the problem not the law.
 
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