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23-06-2015, 03:29 PM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

Well having had several dogs who were not fond of humans I would argue dogs should be matched to the right homes as despite them being dangerous in the wrong hands they can be fun loving pets in the right hands. And saying put them to death is just a wee bit too far for me. Also not all dogs ever meet children or babies so they don't have to be totally child safe IMO

Children have to be kept safe but they are more likely to be harmed by adults than dogs in families.
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Common sense should prevail when it comes to pets and children, unfortunately it doesn't seem to. So many people appear to buy dogs as status symbols, the bigger and stronger the better, but they don't give a thought to how they are going to handle these animals, they have no idea how to train them and no idea of what the animal's needs are. Hunting type dogs and working type dogs have basic instincts and really are not suitable to be kept around small children, certainly never left alone with them. Then again there are some people who should never be allowed to own any type of animal in the first place. However in this case I don't think the dog should be put down, according to neighbours it has never been aggressive when out and I'm sure with the right owners it could be just fine.
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23-06-2015, 04:27 PM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

I agree Clumsy, I would say though no dog no matter how seemingly safe or friendly should be left unsupervised around children, for the child's safety and the dog's.
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23-06-2015, 05:13 PM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
I agree Clumsy, I would say though no dog no matter how seemingly safe or friendly should be left unsupervised around children, for the child's safety and the dog's.
Absolutely Julie.
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23-06-2015, 08:43 PM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

This is such a tragic story.

It is heartening and interesting to read the responses and am also very surprised to note that nowhere has anybody suggested that patterdales or even JRT types be added to the list of banned breeds.

There doesn't seem to be the same outrage to a patterdale killing a small child as there is a to a staffie-type dog killing a child.

Staffie-type dog owner here by the way.
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23-06-2015, 09:42 PM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

Most probably because it is somewhat of a rarity to hear of a Patterdale killing a child but it isnīt so rare to hear of Staffie type dogs killing them.
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24-06-2015, 07:50 AM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

A common misconception, but actually not a surprising one given the press coverage following a fatal attack.

Jack Russells are featuring more and more in fatalities. Although thankfully human deaths by dogs are still extremely rare.

Originally Posted by clumsy ->
Most probably because it is somewhat of a rarity to hear of a Patterdale killing a child but it isnīt so rare to hear of Staffie type dogs killing them.
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24-06-2015, 08:58 AM
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In the late 60's early 70's JRT's and corgis were implicated in the killings of a couple of babies and they were considered not safe around children,, greyhounds and whippets came next with mothers being told the dogs would mistake crawling babies for rabbits and rip them to shreads.

Then later in the 1970's the german shepards or Alsations as they were known then came under the spotlight with whole pages of newpaper telling us how dangerous they were and how their looks betrayed their closeness to wolves.

Next was the doberman with the cropped ears and tails they looked the part to be labeled devil dogs and the media made sure they were.. They were overtaken by the heavier Rottweiler and both were stars of films such as resident evil and rottweiler, the cyborg dog.. The media lapped up the chance at yet more devil dogs to love to hate ..

But of course the last decade or so has seen the emergence of the Staff (mostly american type) and pit bull as the dasterdly devil dog hyped by media.

A thing to ask is does the media hype serve to encourage 'bad' owners to want one of these devil dogs or do bad owners cause the hype..
Whichever way the story starts its obvious that they feed off each other,
the dogs suffer, the good owners suffer, and the general public is whipped up into yet another witch hunt to ban the devil dog..

Dogs dont start out mean or bitey. Of course nature has a lot to do with it but good breeding and good upbringing has a lot to say in how they turn out..
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24-06-2015, 10:30 AM
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TBH I think comes down to how common they are we haven't seen a patterdale in many years whereas we see staffies daily, a few staffies we know are lovely but in the main here they are owned by rather rough people who train them to fight and really don't care whether the dog is happy or not.
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24-06-2015, 07:00 PM
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Re: Another baby killed by a dog

YES - yess and yes again, thank you for articulating exactly what I meant to say.

Originally Posted by Cass ->
In the late 60's early 70's JRT's and corgis were implicated in the killings of a couple of babies and they were considered not safe around children,, greyhounds and whippets came next with mothers being told the dogs would mistake crawling babies for rabbits and rip them to shreads.

Then later in the 1970's the german shepards or Alsations as they were known then came under the spotlight with whole pages of newpaper telling us how dangerous they were and how their looks betrayed their closeness to wolves.

Next was the doberman with the cropped ears and tails they looked the part to be labeled devil dogs and the media made sure they were.. They were overtaken by the heavier Rottweiler and both were stars of films such as resident evil and rottweiler, the cyborg dog.. The media lapped up the chance at yet more devil dogs to love to hate ..

But of course the last decade or so has seen the emergence of the Staff (mostly american type) and pit bull as the dasterdly devil dog hyped by media.

A thing to ask is does the media hype serve to encourage 'bad' owners to want one of these devil dogs or do bad owners cause the hype..
Whichever way the story starts its obvious that they feed off each other,
the dogs suffer, the good owners suffer, and the general public is whipped up into yet another witch hunt to ban the devil dog..

Dogs dont start out mean or bitey. Of course nature has a lot to do with it but good breeding and good upbringing has a lot to say in how they turn out..
 
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