06-06-2012, 08:03 AM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Willow darlin' - we can STILL have a parliamentary system under the changes I am advocating, merely that the Members of that Parliament are DELEGATED by their constituents rather than being REPRESENTATIVES. A subtle but important distinction. As to the Head of State, like other democracies across Europe, they have abolished their aristocracies and have an ELECTED head of state, who can be changed from time to time if 'WE' choose to do so.
06-06-2012, 08:15 AM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Not necessarily so Bob. 1 million people turned up to celebrate Mrs Windsor's jubilee yes, but London alone has a population of 8 million, and the country as a whole, a population of 60 million. Therefore those who celebrated on the Thames, could be said to be in the minority. However the issue has never been put to a referendum and there are an awful lot of people, whilst celebrating Mrs Windsor's jubilee, would nonetheless, vote to end the monarchy and have a directly elected head of state.
06-06-2012, 09:19 AM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Not necessarily so Bob. 1 million people turned up to celebrate Mrs Windsor's jubilee yes, but London alone has a population of 8 million, and the country as a whole, a population of 60 million. Therefore those who celebrated on the Thames, could be said to be in the minority. However the issue has never been put to a referendum and there are an awful lot of people, whilst celebrating Mrs Windsor's jubilee, would nonetheless, vote to end the monarchy and have a directly elected head of state.
06-06-2012, 09:30 AM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Originally Posted by plantman
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Maybe, but not in our lifetimes hopefully....
06-06-2012, 02:17 PM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Not necessarily so Bob. 1 million people turned up to celebrate Mrs Windsor's jubilee yes, but London alone has a population of 8 million, and the country as a whole, a population of 60 million. Therefore those who celebrated on the Thames, could be said to be in the minority. However the issue has never been put to a referendum and there are an awful lot of people, whilst celebrating Mrs Windsor's jubilee, would nonetheless, vote to end the monarchy and have a directly elected head of state.
An estimated 250,000 turned up in the Mall, 20,000(when only 12,000 were expected) in the concert venue and an estimated,(depends which source you take), 35,million celebrated around the UK and unknown millions celebrated around the world.
Who wants an elected head of state who is like, Bashar al-Assad(Syria), President Michael Sata(Yemen), President Goodluck Jonathan(Nigeria), President Hu Jintao(China), President Omar al-Bashir(Sudan), I could go on and on.
As long as there is human greed then ANY elected head of state could enrich his/her own coffers at the expense of their citizens.
Bring someone like Cromwell and I will be at the front of the queue to get rid of him.
06-06-2012, 03:32 PM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Originally Posted by Antibrown
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Please get your facts right Joe.An estimated 250,000 turned up in the Mall, 20,000(when only 12,000 were expected) in the concert venue and an estimated,(depends which source you take), 35,million celebrated around the UK and unknown millions celebrated around the world.
Who wants an elected head of state who is like, Bashar al-Assad(Syria), President Michael Sata(Yemen), President Goodluck Jonathan(Nigeria), President Hu Jintao(China), President Omar al-Bashir(Sudan), I could go on and on.
As long as there is human greed then ANY elected head of state could enrich his/her own coffers at the expense of their citizens.
Bring someone like Cromwell and I will be at the front of the queue to get rid of him.
06-06-2012, 05:52 PM
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Re: 'Our' Parliamentarians
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Bob you're talking crap and you know it - the examples you have given bear no relation to modern democracies. What f'r instance of Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, Hungary, etc, etc, etc. All of these countries at one time (with the exception of Switzerland) had aristocracies and monarchs. All of them, by various means managed to dispose of their aristocracy and now have a modern free democratic society with an ELECTED President.
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