13-03-2021, 12:27 PM
1
The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
We in this country, perhaps more than any other country, seem to be leading the way in banning everything which could conceivably create the end of the world!Yes, this little country is putting ourselves at great disadvantage for... nothing!
China, India, Russia, in fact most other 'first world' countries are still benefiting from coal mining, the burning of coal for energy generation, etc. We are heavily outnumbered in that respect. Does anyone really think that what we are doing is going to make any real difference?
However, there may be the beginnings of a return to common sense:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ght-latest-ont
Not a completely wholesale return to the Industrial Revolution, but at least some way toward a middle ground.
Germany, for example, still mines coal and burns it for power generation. The Greenies may or may not be jumping up and down over there, but I'm pleased to see that they seem to be generally ignored. We should do the same.
It should also be realised that coal mining and power generation today is a great deal cleaner than a hundred years ago (though perhaps not in places like China).
Yes, the proposed modern deep coal mine in Cumbria has been put on hold, but I hope that it will eventually go ahead. We cannot rely on windmills for all the trendy electric cars the government is pushing, and for some people (no doubt other Greenies) nuclear power is considered too 'dangerous'.
Let me finally add a couple of readers' comments from the above newspaper article:
"Germany has just opened a new coal mine We import tons of coal from France. Get the Cumbria coalmine open, they need the jobs & we need the coal."
"Green energy is fine but if you are importing all the kit from Chyna you are literally wrecking the future. And lets be clear - we NEED coal power too."
"Opening a coal mine in the UK would not be adding to an6 pollution as it would be replacing what we already use. It would forego the extra pollution from transportation from around the world and also stop the need for buying it from the likes of China where the environmental standards mean that they actually be producing more pollution than if we did it ourselves, whilst at the same time giving more jobs and investment to areas of the UK."
13-03-2021, 01:18 PM
2
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
Originally Posted by JBR
->
We in this country, perhaps more than any other country, seem to be leading the way in banning everything which could conceivably create the end of the world!Yes, this little country is putting ourselves at great disadvantage for... nothing!
China, India, Russia, in fact most other 'first world' countries are still benefiting from coal mining, the burning of coal for energy generation, etc. We are heavily outnumbered in that respect. Does anyone really think that what we are doing is going to make any real difference?
However, there may be the beginnings of a return to common sense:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ght-latest-ont
Not a completely wholesale return to the Industrial Revolution, but at least some way toward a middle ground.
Germany, for example, still mines coal and burns it for power generation. The Greenies may or may not be jumping up and down over there, but I'm pleased to see that they seem to be generally ignored. We should do the same.
It should also be realised that coal mining and power generation today is a great deal cleaner than a hundred years ago (though perhaps not in places like China).
Yes, the proposed modern deep coal mine in Cumbria has been put on hold, but I hope that it will eventually go ahead. We cannot rely on windmills for all the trendy electric cars the government is pushing, and for some people (no doubt other Greenies) nuclear power is considered too 'dangerous'.
Let me finally add a couple of readers' comments from the above newspaper article:
"Germany has just opened a new coal mine We import tons of coal from France. Get the Cumbria coalmine open, they need the jobs & we need the coal."
"Green energy is fine but if you are importing all the kit from Chyna you are literally wrecking the future. And lets be clear - we NEED coal power too."
"Opening a coal mine in the UK would not be adding to an6 pollution as it would be replacing what we already use. It would forego the extra pollution from transportation from around the world and also stop the need for buying it from the likes of China where the environmental standards mean that they actually be producing more pollution than if we did it ourselves, whilst at the same time giving more jobs and investment to areas of the UK."
Every single one.
13-03-2021, 03:54 PM
4
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
->
EVERY match not struck, every fossil fuel not burned - every single one not ignited is a reduction in the carbon released into the environment. Every single one.
Are you happy to continue pissing into the wind?
13-03-2021, 04:33 PM
5
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
Originally Posted by JBR
->
Every single one we prevent using is negligible compared to the millions China and others create and use.Are you happy to continue pissing into the wind?
"Whataboutery" is no get out excuse for not doing the right thing when doing the right thing is essential and - this is.
13-03-2021, 04:38 PM
6
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
I reckon this new coal mine should go ahead if only to reduce the amount of pollution caused by the importation of coal from places such as France (how long before that has tariffs applied?) and Colombia, and wood pellets from the USA?13-03-2021, 04:57 PM
7
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
->
No, because that is not what is happening. Every drop of piddle adds to every other and leads to a growing lake and soon a sea."Whataboutery" is no get out excuse for not doing the right thing when doing the right thing is essential and - this is.
You can continue to bang your head against the wall if you want!
13-03-2021, 05:02 PM
8
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
->
I reckon this new coal mine should go ahead if only to reduce the amount of pollution caused by the importation of coal from places such as France (how long before that has tariffs applied?) and Colombia, and wood pellets from the USA?
Burning wood pellets, as you mention, produces less energy than burning coal yet itself also adds to the pollution of the atmosphere.
13-03-2021, 05:21 PM
9
Re: The beginning of the end of the Green Age?
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
->
I reckon this new coal mine should go ahead if only to reduce the amount of pollution caused by the importation of coal from places such as France (how long before that has tariffs applied?) and Colombia, and wood pellets from the USA?
|
|
