20-07-2015, 10:44 PM
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Gumbud, you've lit the blue touch paper & retired to a safe place.The truth is no one can predict the end of life as we know it..
The only certainty is that it will be sudden,unexpected & total.................probably sooner rather than later.
BTW me no have a glass, half full or otherwise.
20-07-2015, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Junior
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.... The only certainty is that it will be sudden, unexpected & total................. probably sooner rather than later .....
If we are talking about the "end of life as we know it", it sort of follows that it will be total.
But, what leads you to believe it will be
(a) sudden
(b) unexpected and
(c) soon ?
Not for one second suggesting you are wrong - just curious how you got there.
20-07-2015, 11:41 PM
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The notions of Good and Evil are simply programmed constructs that everyone has been conditioned with, another form of control.Nature is Nature. She rules implicitly, completely, ruthlessly. Nature has no good or evil. Nature just is. She does what she does. Matter and life constantly change. Nature recycles them. The environment we are all a part of is Nature. That environment shapes the behaviours of every living thing. The tiger, being at the top of its food chain, will mercilessly hunt and kill its prey. It does so because of the environment Nature has created. The tiger has to eat. There is neither good nor evil in what it does. It is all simply part of Nature.
We too are creatures of Nature. Due to the environment Nature has put us in, man fights for space, for food, for resources. It is neither good nor evil. Man does what Nature has determined. Nature has made us all different, diverse. Physically, emotionally, spiritually. Hence one man may look at another and deem his behaviours to be at odds with his own set of behaviours. Yet each man simply does as Nature created him.
However, due to the fight for resources, those people who revel in power and control, have concocted control systems for everyone else. Over the years those systems have become accepted by people whom Nature created to be followers. A part of those systems is the conditioning that there exist rules and limits, that one must act and behave in specific ways, that no-one of free to do as they please and that some things are "good" and others "evil". It is all simply control.
We are in the end just children of Nature. The only real rules are her rules. No-one can escape them.
21-07-2015, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone
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.... one great leap forward will be the decline of organized religion ...Borders may disappear and money, as such, non-existent.
Originally Posted by MKJ
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...I know there will come a time when capitalism and religious fervour will be outgrown
21-07-2015, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Realist
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.... We are in the end just children of Nature. The only real rules are her rules. No-one can escape them.
I know what you mean but I think a hallmark of civilization is that each society creates rules - not necessarily ordained by 'nature'.
For the well being of the tribe, its members agree not to crap where they eat or breed with their siblings - that sort of thing.
Those in the group agree to impose penalties for actions that "nature" would condone.
Not so ?
21-07-2015, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone
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Would like to see you expand a bit on this, Bob.If we are talking about the "end of life as we know it", it sort of follows that it will be total.
But, what leads you to believe it will be
(a) sudden
(b) unexpected and
(c) soon ?
Not for one second suggesting you are wrong - just curious how you got there.
hunch
hypothesis
inference
supposition
conclusion
fancy
guess
uesstimate
notion
opinion
presumption
surmise
theorizing
theory
perhaps
shot in the dark
sneaking suspicion
stab in the dark
In other words pure conjecture. Tis my current theory. I've enjoyed reading all the views
21-07-2015, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jem
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I think it’s all about balance, one side depends on the other, good-evil, light -dark, up-down, alive-dead, we wouldn’t know what one was without the other, you know what I mean, if evil didn’t exist you wouldn’t know what good was.Anyway who cares, we are all doomed to vanish off the face of the planet in a few thousands years, just like the dinosaurs and countless other creatures before them, only I think we will be the instrument of our own destruction, surely we didn’t think we’d last forever the way we carry on. The human race had plenty of chances to mend their ways and they blew it every time, they will never come to get on with other, there'll always be one greedy bastard in the bunch, we are all doomed so make the best of it while you can, that’s what I do, cheers!
21-07-2015, 12:24 PM
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Re: Good -v- Evil
Originally Posted by Pumicestone
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Good 'eavens, a lucid post from Gummy !!??Given the "progress' which has occurred in the last few decades, projecting forward 500 or 1000 years is mind-boggling.
Probably beyond our wildest imagination.
Not trying to be contentious but I reckon one great leap forward will be the decline of organized religion as we now know it.
As education and science and literacy become more universal, I believe that reliance on superstition and ancient myths and legends will virtually disappear.
And with it all the hate and conflict which it creates.
Gone forever the radical Muslims - but also the ratbag Christian fundies, the rich-and-powerful Vatican, the televangelist leeches and all the weirdo cults and sects.
Global warming will be addressed because we will have no choice.
Borders may disappear and money, as such, non-existent.
Life expectancy - potentially centuries.
With all the problems that creates for supporting a huge world-population.
Some sort of 'culling' might well emerge.
But, who knows ?
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