16-03-2019, 10:46 AM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by Judd
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A majority chose to remain after the propaganda about the benefits of staying in were used to convince a gullible public who little realised it would evolve into the monstrous plutocracy it is now as subsequent governments sold Britain's sovereignty by the signing of detrimental treaties.
Strange, how the public are "gullible" when and only when they vote for "propaganda" re what certain people don't want to happen.
(Note: in this and other debates watch out for what the psychologists call "snarl words" - in this instance "gullible" and "propaganda". The opposite - "purr words" - would be e.g. "democracy").
16-03-2019, 12:40 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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Presumably the same "gullible public" who voted for Brexit.Strange, how the public are "gullible" when and only when they vote for "propaganda" re what certain people don't want to happen.
(Note: in this and other debates watch out for what the psychologists call "snarl words" - in this instance "gullible" and "propaganda". The opposite - "purr words" - would be e.g. "democracy").
16-03-2019, 12:53 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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Presumably the same "gullible public" who voted for Brexit.Strange, how the public are "gullible" when and only when they vote for "propaganda" re what certain people don't want to happen.
(Note: in this and other debates watch out for what the psychologists call "snarl words" - in this instance "gullible" and "propaganda". The opposite - "purr words" - would be e.g. "democracy").
You only have to look at the advertising industry to realise how this gullibility is exploited.
Millions are made from products which don't work as suggested, the industry would die if that were not the case.
All the players, in Politics, know this.
They act, accordingly,whichever side they are on.
16-03-2019, 12:56 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Don't worry folks
another two weeks and we will officially have left the EU and can get on with out lives. As my choice of daily television is now being glued to the parliamentary proceedings (or the shifty goings on in an ill-informed ignorant European Parliament) I have to say I have been quite impressed by the oratorical style of Speaker Bercow excluding the unfair selection of Dr Sarah Wollaston's (from the Reject Party) amendment.
He adds a little dry wit to what can at times be tedious proceedings though I do now record the programme so I can fast forward through the continual bleatings of some members like Soubry (or sourberry as I now think of her) and the SNP.
Bercow must have an excellent bladder, I guess that is a prerequisite for any speaker.
16-03-2019, 02:55 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by Judd
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More than likely. Once bitten, twice shy. We're happy to pass on our experience of this corrupt self-serving organisation to others who are a bit less aware of what's in store for them if they continue to blindly follow the diktats laid down by this would be superstate.
16-03-2019, 03:27 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Says someone who's country at the top of the commonwealth. An organisation that in many respects is quite comparable to the EU.
Though countries can and have left the Commonwealth.
16-03-2019, 03:44 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by Meg
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Don't worry folks another two weeks and we will officially have left the EU and can get on with out lives.
Even in the unlikely event of that happening, we will still be in the customs union and the single market (or something very very similar), at least if May has her way.
And then, a year or two from now, the sad old farts that voted for Brexit will be dead and a younger generation will be clamouring for re-entry into the EU.
What a sad and sorry waste of time all of this is.
16-03-2019, 03:46 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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You hope . . . Even in the unlikely event of that happening, we will still be in the customs union and the single market (or something very very similar), at least if May has her way.
And then, a year or two from now, the sad old farts that voted for Brexit will be dead and a younger generation will be clamouring for re-entry into the EU.
What a sad and sorry waste of time all of this is.
16-03-2019, 03:49 PM
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Re: Bercow bollox to Brexit show.
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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No-one demanded a second vote because the majority was bigger than the laughable 52-48 of the Brexit one. And the benefits of the Common Market were soon obvious to all and sundry. Further, so big a constitutional re-alignment should have had to have been 55-45 or 60-40 or whatever. Loyalists in the Six Counties of Ireland are already making this point now for when, in the not-too-distant future, the people there have to vote on Ireland being (re) united. And Brexit is a much bigger deal than that!
The bar should have been set much higher than a straight simple majority .
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