04-03-2015, 10:39 AM
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Abuse ignored yet again
I saw the report on this a couple of nights ago, itīs dreadful and I really fail to understand why certain authorities who ignored this are not immediately fired. No doubt the excuses will be made and nobody will lose their job.http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-03/r...cial-services/
04-03-2015, 10:45 AM
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This is clearly going on all over the country, I was talking to someone here yesterday and he said he knows men doing this in our community too.What can be done I am not sure, we can't really sack everyone concerned which is my first thought can we ?
04-03-2015, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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This is clearly going on all over the country, I was talking to someone here yesterday and he said he knows men doing this in our community too. What can be done I am not sure, we can't really sack everyone concerned which is my first thought can we ?
04-03-2015, 11:08 AM
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It shows that more care should be taken in care homes.What a bad name for one when it seems no CARE was taken
for the welfare of these kids.
Just because a child is gobby, and thinks they know everything
it is as a adult we should know that this cant be true.
If parents were telling them this was happening the lack of care
there was terrible. About time someone did do something about it.
A new way of supporting these kids is a definite move . What I don't
know but hope someone comes up with something soon.
04-03-2015, 11:40 AM
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Some of the problem is many children in care are highly sexualised because they have been taken from abusive situations in their own family. I know a couple locally who adopted such a child and nothing they did could stop her seeking sex from about the age of 11, it was a disaster the girl constantly made lewd remarks and came on to the husband, in the end they had no choice but to admit they couldn't cope and the girl went back into care at 15.I think we need a different way and the children need to be reconditioned in some way so the early abuse doesn't make them vulnerable to the terrible men who abuse them.
Social services are not the place for them or in any way set up to cope with them.
The same happens when children are abused physically they often grow to be our most violent people in society.
We have to break the circle of abuse.
04-03-2015, 12:14 PM
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Unless the authorities who were directly involved with the abuse face the consequences of not doing their job as it should be done, I cannot see the problem of neglect being resolved.If people did in fact know that these girls and some boys who were in care were being abused, they should be sacked and never be able to do this type of work again. I feel strongly enough about this to even think that some who
treated these kids as though they had no worth as they were in some cases problem children, should maybe face criminal charges themselves.
As usual we will probably hear the usual rolled out answer that lessons will be learned. One of the most insincere apologies ever that everyone uses.
04-03-2015, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by clumsy
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Difficult Julie, but those at the top of the tree should be sacked and replaced with people who are not afraid to do the job they are supposedly paid to do. That job means they should ensure that their staff should also be doing their jobs properly, no excuses and no sweeping things under the carpet.
Child abuse in this country seems to be getting completely out of hand. God knows what goes on that we don't yet know about. Paedophile rings, peadophile celebrities, peadophile internet sites. It's so depressing.
04-03-2015, 12:37 PM
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It is tempting to see conspiracy theories, but in these sorts of cases it seems to fit --The BBC; Rochdale, including Cyril Smith & childrens' homes; Rotheram; North Wales; Parliament; Jimmy Saville and the NHS; now Oxford. I think there were incidents in Manchester, Sheffield & Bristol as well; there have been so many I lose track.
I have no doubt others will come to light in the future
All these show the same pattern of indifference, lack of interest, losing reports, curtailing and supressing of inquires, secrecy and closing ranks; and not just a few individuals or even one department; it included police, social services, councils, and so on.
The abuse was so widespread, lasted so long, and virtually unchallenged that I cannot believe that there was not some sort of network or at the least, common knowledge among those at the top, where there was an unwritten rule or gentleman's agreement in The Establishment that no-one would speak up.
While we're at it, I include the failure of various social services to deal with child abuse & neglect which resulted in deaths, and of hospitals to deal with poor performance & incompetence
I am left with the feeling of disillusionment, cynicism and that there was one rule for those at the top, and they didn't give a damn about the rest of us
No doubt there will be a report or two to add to the rest, with the same sort of recommendations which we've heard before, and are obvious to anyone with any sense.
In many instances, neighbours and even the children's friends, 9 & 10 year olds, reported a problem, but nothing was done. I remember a comment by one woman after a toddler died through abuse & neglect; " You run out of people to phone".
And no doubt all those people will keep their important job titles and high salaries, then proceed to do nothing
And one final word. If I hear another middle class bitch trotting out phrases like "systems in place"; "robust procedures"; and "lessons learned", I think I shall puke.
04-03-2015, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zuludog
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It is tempting to see conspiracy theories, but in these sorts of cases it seems to fit --The BBC; Rochdale, including Cyril Smith & childrens' homes; Rotheram; North Wales; Parliament; Jimmy Saville and the NHS; now Oxford. I think there were incidents in Manchester, Sheffield & Bristol as well; there have been so many I lose track.
I have no doubt others will come to light in the future
All these show the same pattern of indifference, lack of interest, losing reports, curtailing and supressing of inquires, secrecy and closing ranks; and not just a few individuals or even one department; it included police, social services, councils, and so on.
The abuse was so widespread, lasted so long, and virtually unchallenged that I cannot believe that there was not some sort of network or at the least, common knowledge among those at the top, where there was an unwritten rule or gentleman's agreement in The Establishment that no-one would speak up.
While we're at it, I include the failure of various social services to deal with child abuse & neglect which resulted in deaths, and of hospitals to deal with poor performance & incompetence
I am left with the feeling of disillusionment, cynicism and that there was one rule for those at the top, and they didn't give a damn about the rest of us
No doubt there will be a report or two to add to the rest, with the same sort of recommendations which we've heard before, and are obvious to anyone with any sense.
In many instances, neighbours and even the children's friends, 9 & 10 year olds, reported a problem, but nothing was done. I remember a comment by one woman after a toddler died through abuse & neglect; " You run out of people to phone".
And no doubt all those people will keep their important job titles and high salaries, then proceed to do nothing
And one final word. If I hear another middle class bitch trotting out phrases like "systems in place"; "robust procedures"; and "lessons learned", I think I shall puke.
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