05-03-2020, 10:32 AM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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The population explosion in South Yorkshire....
For anyone who likes statistics and figures and has time to wade through them the website below may make interesting reading. It's very much based on population statistics showing in all countries present, forecast and historical information on, for instance, total population, people per sq. km., birth rates, numbers of migrants, etc. Well worth bookmarking for future reference if nothing else I reckon.
I have yet to check it all out but the first link below shows the UK specifically, the second one is the main link from where you can check this information about all countries in the world:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-...uk-population/
https://www.worldometers.info/population/
05-03-2020, 12:12 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by Baz46
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About the same scene here in the rural wilds of Cambridgeshire / Norfolk, OGF. Other than around the larger towns, I can drive for miles and miles without seeing hardly any signs of population whatsoever.For anyone who likes statistics and figures and has time to wade through them the website below may make interesting reading. It's very much based on population statistics showing in all countries present, forecast and historical information on, for instance, total population, people per sq. km., birth rates, numbers of migrants, etc. Well worth bookmarking for future reference if nothing else I reckon.
I have yet to check it all out but the first link below shows the UK specifically, the second one is the main link from where you can check this information about all countries in the world:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-...uk-population/
https://www.worldometers.info/population/
I've had a look at the past UK stats and will look more closely later, but I am always dubious about forecasts into the future. The reasons for overpopulation in different countries varies, but just looking at the UK, the future might look totally different to the future we all envisage.
Looking at future birthrates, as we have discussed earlier, we find that more women are choosing career choices and the good life as opposed to rearing kids. More and more people of the same sex are residing together, and although some will foster children, most will not.
And as more work is farmed out to foreign countries the UK will look less attractive for raising families and earning a good living, and more people will leave for better prospects. Australia has always looked good for enterprising young Brits, and Spain for the wealthy retired ones.
With such a large influx of migrants over the years the UK could become a third world country as large industry and the wealthy move to where labour and materials are cheaper than here.
We have already lost most of our manufacturing to foreign competition, and what remains is mostly foreign owned.
05-03-2020, 12:47 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Thanks Baz, that's a good find and very interesting.I've had a look at the past UK stats and will look more closely later, but I am always dubious about forecasts into the future. The reasons for overpopulation in different countries varies, but just looking at the UK, the future might look totally different to the future we all envisage.
Looking at future birthrates, as we have discussed earlier, we find that more women are choosing career choices and the good life as opposed to rearing kids. More and more people of the same sex are residing together, and although some will foster children, most will not.
And as more work is farmed out to foreign countries the UK will look less attractive for raising families and earning a good living, and more people will leave for better prospects. Australia has always looked good for enterprising young Brits, and Spain for the wealthy retired ones.
With such a large influx of migrants over the years the UK could become a third world country as large industry and the wealthy move to where labour and materials are cheaper than here.
We have already lost most of our manufacturing to foreign competition, and what remains is mostly foreign owned.
You have opened up a whole new avenue of thought for me with
that post OGF, it sounds like a very likely outcome for the uk lm
sorry to say, brexit or no brexit? I also will be perusing the two
links that Baz so kindly posted earlier!
Donkeyman!
06-03-2020, 02:10 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Every animal on this planet needs a specific area of territory toprovided for its needs, this is normally adjusted automatically
by the natural processes of nature such as starvation, disease,
and competition from other species etc!
Unfotunately, being so ' clever' us humans have claimed most of
the productive places for ourselves and this has completely
buggered the natural automatic prcesses with the results we are
beginning to see and feel at this moment!
So yes the humans are over populated, but the wild animals are
greatly underpopulated?
If you take into account the proliferation of ' needs ' we have
accumulated over time the effects we have on the natural way is
out of ptoportion to the benefits we contribute to the system?
Donkeyman!
06-03-2020, 10:23 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Every animal on this planet needs a specific area of territory toprovided for its needs, this is normally adjusted automatically
by the natural processes of nature such as starvation, disease,
and competition from other species etc!
Unfotunately, being so ' clever' us humans have claimed most of
the productive places for ourselves and this has completely
buggered the natural automatic prcesses with the results we are
beginning to see and feel at this moment!
So yes the humans are over populated, but the wild animals are
greatly underpopulated?
If you take into account the proliferation of ' needs ' we have
accumulated over time the effects we have on the natural way is
out of ptoportion to the benefits we contribute to the system?
Donkeyman!
No living thing ever 'Contributes' to the planet Donkeyman, but completes a cycle through death and gets recycled. It's waste products provide nutrients and food for growing stuff which is then either eaten by something else or takes in carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Just one big circle...Any imbalances will be evened out by nature. Things die in hard times (even humans) and flourish in good times.
07-03-2020, 12:06 AM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Fortunately Donkeyman territories overlap.....Small furry rodents and insects are not on a human diet so most animals don't need to worry....No living thing ever 'Contributes' to the planet Donkeyman, but completes a cycle through death and gets recycled. It's waste products provide nutrients and food for growing stuff which is then either eaten by something else or takes in carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Just one big circle...Any imbalances will be evened out by nature. Things die in hard times (even humans) and flourish in good times.
Thats what l mean by contributing to the planet, l suppose l should
have said replace instead?
I often say that the only time the rich ever give anything away is
when they peg off?😃😃😃
Donkeyman!
08-03-2020, 10:54 AM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Fortunately Donkeyman territories overlap.....Small furry rodents and insects are not on a human diet so most animals don't need to worry....No living thing ever 'Contributes' to the planet Donkeyman, but completes a cycle through death and gets recycled. It's waste products provide nutrients and food for growing stuff which is then either eaten by something else or takes in carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Just one big circle...Any imbalances will be evened out by nature. Things die in hard times (even humans) and flourish in good times.
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