Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

Hi Folks.
Wifey and I live in Rhos On Sea/Colwyn Bay here up in lovely North Wales. Just off the promenade there is quite a nice restaurant come leisure centre called Porth Eirias.
As per photographs the establishment makes it very clear that the toilets are for customers only. If you would kindly read my E. Mail I have only just sent to the company CEO then it is very obvious I disagree with that stance.
How do you feel about this then?
Is that policy being not public-spirited, and possibly rather mean?

The Managing Director/CEO
Bryn Williams
Colwyn Bay Watersports
Porth Eirias

Good morning.
My Wife and I are locals who live in The Marine View Apartments there next to The Toad Pub.
We are rather concerned about your policy as mentioned in my leader.
To tell you the truth I feel for you to not only have that particular policy, but also to have it shown in a big placard over the entrance door, and also on the front glass door as in photographs is not a very friendly or welcoming or public spirited action either towards locals or tourist visitors.

If you would please just read Tom Utley's article in last Fridays Daily Mail, then that is saying pretty much all my Wife and I would wish to say to you.
Particularly words in bold, just to highlight.
This is not meant to be shouting in any way means or form.
We are mindful to write a letter/contact The Daily Post and Pioneer and other media in respect of this issue.
Also local representatives, and to write a Trip Advisor review in respect of this policy and your establishment after calling in for a coffee and to use your toilets.

Before we do any of that though, my Wife and I would welcome your thoughts in respect of what we have to say here.
Please note that although my Wife and I live local, we have never either eaten or drank or used your toilets since you opened.
At this stage we just wish to object to the principle of your policy.
We don't really need to use your toilets as we live so near, and of course it goes without saying that there are public toilet facilities within walking distance of your establishment.

But that is beside the point.
So we don't have a personal motivation trying to get your rules changed so none customers can use your toilets for ourselves, it is merely and I repeat:
Your policy is not a very friendly or welcoming or public spirited action towards both locals and tourists.

My Wife and I look forward to your reply.

Best regards

Christine and Kenny Thain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...lets-free.html

Now we can spend a penny in shops or pubs — without having to spend any pennies. At my age, that is a relief!

TOM UTLEY on cafes and restaurants opening up their toilets for free
Anyway, my point this week is to hail as national heroes the 11,300 pioneering bosses of shops, cafes, pubs and other firms who have signed up to the new Use Our Loos initiative.

Launched by the British Toilet Association, with sponsorship from Domestos, this is the scheme under which participants display stickers outside their premises, advertising that passers-by are welcome to use their facilities, whether they buy anything or not.

But for most businesses, surely, it’s not just public-spirited to welcome passers-by who’ve been caught short.

It also makes sound commercial sense to lure them onto the premises, where they might be tempted to stop for a bite, a drink or a purchase while there.

Speaking for myself, whenever in the past I’ve dropped into licensed premises to relieve myself, I’ve almost always felt obliged to stay for a pint (a bit of a vicious circle, I grant you).

I can’t see that changing if the pub happens to display a Use Our Loos sticker. If anything, indeed, I’ll feel more inclined than ever to give my custom, as a gesture of gratitude for that selfless welcome.

So let me end with a plea to businesses all over the land.

Sign up to this imaginative scheme (details on the BTA website).

http://www.btaloos.co.uk/?p=1937

You won’t be sorry — and a great many like me will be hugely relieved.

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Where to go, when you need to go ?
A national campaign mobilising local business to make their loos accessible to the community they serve.

We all need to use a loo or public restroom when we are out and about each day and it’s getting harder and harder to find a good clean toilet to get relief and allow us to enjoy the local area.

With Local authorities struggling to provide enough facilities, now many local businesses and store owners are keen join into a Community Toilet Scheme (CTS) to make sure that everyone can continue to enjoy local amenities and continue shopping.

Libraries, Museums and Public buildings will also be targeted

The British Toilet Association (BTA)
The BTA along with Uniliver (Domestos Brand), the Gt British Toilet Map, NeonTribe and Edelman have joined forces to promote a National Campaign to record the locations of all publicly available loo’s throughout the UK.

These include toilets provided by local authorities, private providers like Healthmatic and Danfo (UK) and for the first time we will be promoting those facilities provided by local shops/stores and businesses to help all types of users to find relief when travelling or shopping “away from home”

We are currently recruiting a part-time Campaign Manager to help co-ordinate the collection of data and information on all those businesses who want to offer their support to this campaign,

Unilever (Domestos)
Domestos believes that a clean, safe toilet should be within everyone’s reach.
That is why it is tackling the demise of the UK public toilet and making it accessible once more.

Just as Domestos has been doing, in many underdeveloped countries, in partnership with UNICEF for over four years waging the war on poor sanitation, because everyone deserves a clean toilet.--

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

I suppose really, it's up to the owner. I know it's not a nice feeling when we are desperate for a loo but I'm not sure a restaurant should be obliged to let hordes of people in to use their loo completely free of charge. As you say, whenever we have done that, we have always felt obliged to buy a drink or a coffee but not everyone is as considerate and not everyone is properly toilet trained (adults included). I'm not sure I would want to pay good money in a restaurant with people going in and out just to use the loos.

Really it is up to the Council to provide facilities.

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

Hmmmm...
Would you let any odd sod you know nothing about come in off the street and use your loo?

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

Sorry I am on the side of the restaurant, its their staff that have to clean the toilets. I wouldn't dream of using a pub/restaurant toilet unless I was purchasing something.

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

I figured this thread must be a wind up when I read the title but I guess it's not.

Pub/Restaurants are private establishments.

Toilets there are absolutely NOT for the general public, what a crazy idea !

It would be wholly discourteous and improper to stroll into a licensed pub/restaurant with no intention to buy anything or use their services and to just go to their toilet. It's literally taking the p*ss.

They are entirely right to put up a big sign if ignorant people have been routinely using their facilities gratis.

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

I don't think it's right for people to wander in and out and past others eating and drinking in an establishment either . Public toilets should be provided by the council . As mentioned by another poster staff have to keep the toilets clean

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

God no ... I know a lot of councils have closed public loos... and so it follows that museums or libraries have stepped into the breach and as pubic places funded by pubic people that's fine.

But not a business.
Pubs and clubs have nightmares as it is trying to monitor and curtail what goes on in their loos. Often involving criminal activities.
And who foots the bill for cleaning?
Or do you think they should charge?

I was bored so put a deliberate typo in there for those with a keen eye.

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

I spent last Christmas with my daughter and one of her American friends in Las Vegas.

On Christmas day went into a Pub/Cafe on the Strip (2mile long streach of Casinos eating places and high class shops)

We sat out side and had are meal, lovely temps 68d.

The American goes off to the Bog comes back and says to me the number is ****.

What??? I says... he says thats the number you have to enter to open the Toilet door.

Think it because LV has the second higest number of Homeless persons in the USA which is thought to be around 14k

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

Flippin heck ... did he think you looked like a homeless person Galty?

Re: Pub/Restaurant/Shop Etc. Says Loos Are For Customers Only. Is This Mean?

I think the owner has right on his side you need to direct your complaint to your local council and ask for more public loos.