21-09-2018, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Longdogs
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Totally agree. If allegations are proven to be false, the accuser should get the same sentence as would have been dealt to the accused.
21-09-2018, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bakerman
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Straight men will rape. Gay men will rape. Even priests will rape.
Perhaps you could write new lyrics.
21-09-2018, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Not sure why, but for some reason your phrasing reminded me of the tune to "Let's do it" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFI5Jl_IqsE).Perhaps you could write new lyrics.
28-09-2018, 04:27 AM
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“Me Too must become We Too,” Ardern said. “We are all in this together”.three cheers for the PM of NZ
a fresh breeze from NZ!
28-09-2018, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gumbud
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well it would make up for Henry VIII 's beheading of 'how many' women was it ?
28-09-2018, 06:10 AM
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Like Twink - I believe that rape should be reported immediately while there is still evidence - bruising, DNA, etc.,I can understand cases of children being reluctant to speak out - but not an adult - and what is the use of reporting it 5, 10, or even 20 years later when there is no hope of proving it either way?
Look what happened when the truth came out about Jimmy Saville - people were crawling out of the woodwork by the hundreds - for one reason only - to claim compensation!
Rape is not all about sex - it is mainly about power! It is a heinous crime that demeans both the victim and the perpetrator, and it should carry a most severe sentence, in my opinion.
Both parties should remain anonymous until after the trial then - and only then - the guilty party should be named and shamed.
28-09-2018, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Tabby
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Like Twink - I believe that rape should be reported immediately while there is still evidence - bruising, DNA, etc.,I can understand cases of children being reluctant to speak out - but not an adult - and what is the use of reporting it 5, 10, or even 20 years later when there is no hope of proving it either way?
Look what happened when the truth came out about Jimmy Saville - people were crawling out of the woodwork by the hundreds - for one reason only - to claim compensation!
Rape is not all about sex - it is mainly about power! It is a heinous crime that demeans both the victim and the perpetrator, and it should carry a most severe sentence, in my opinion.
Both parties should remain anonymous until after the trial then - and only then - the guilty party should be named and shamed.
28-09-2018, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Tabby
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Like Twink - I believe that rape should be reported immediately while there is still evidence - bruising, DNA, etc.,I can understand cases of children being reluctant to speak out - but not an adult - and what is the use of reporting it 5, 10, or even 20 years later when there is no hope of proving it either way?
Look what happened when the truth came out about Jimmy Saville - people were crawling out of the woodwork by the hundreds - for one reason only - to claim compensation!
Rape is not all about sex - it is mainly about power! It is a heinous crime that demeans both the victim and the perpetrator, and it should carry a most severe sentence, in my opinion.
Both parties should remain anonymous until after the trial then - and only then - the guilty party should be named and shamed.
I also agree, good post Tabby.The rape of both men and women is also GBH and should be dealt with accordingly.
The only problem I can see is; Was the victim complicit, or partly complicit in the act...
By allowing the media to publish the story before the accused is found guilty, surely helps the prosecution and biases the jury....
28-09-2018, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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I also agree, good post Tabby.The rape of both men and women is also GBH and should be dealt with accordingly.
The only problem I can see is; Was the victim complicit, or partly complicit in the act...
By allowing the media to publish the story before the accused is found guilty, surely helps the prosecution and biases the jury....
I listened to both of them, and they both sounded like actors hoping to win an Oscar, so I don't know who is telling the truth but surely it is 26 years too late to expect justice?
Actions of domestic violence and sexual attack nearly always take place where there are no witnesses, so the best time to report it is immediately... when there may be physical evidence.
If I was on a jury I would find it very difficult to bring a guilty verdict against somebody, if the crime had not been reported for years. I would also question why they had suddenly decided to give evidence now, rather than when it happened.
If you want the person to be punished you should have reported it when there was evidence, not when they may have money to compensate, or to take revenge.....because it will be their families who will suffer!
28-09-2018, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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I was listening to the Kavanaugh hearing and wondering why Christine Blasey Ford has waited 26 years to speak about Brett Kavanaugh's attack on her...... just when he has the chance of a big job!I listened to both of them, and they both sounded like actors hoping to win an Oscar, so I don't know who is telling the truth but surely it is 26 years too late to expect justice?
Actions of domestic violence and sexual attack nearly always take place where there are no witnesses, so the best time to report it is immediately... when there may be physical evidence.
If I was on a jury I would find it very difficult to bring a guilty verdict against somebody, if the crime had not been reported for years. I would also question why they had suddenly decided to give evidence now, rather than when it happened.
If you want the person to be punished you should have reported it when there was evidence, not when they may have money to compensate, or to take revenge.....because it will be their families who will suffer!
..Spot on Twink....
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