03-12-2020, 06:21 PM
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Covid-19: UK first in Europe to pass 60,000 Covid deaths
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55176614A further 414 were recorded on Thursday, taking the total to 60,113.
Two other ways of measuring deaths - where Covid is mentioned on the death certificate, and the number of "excess deaths" for this time of year - give higher total figures.
However, the UK has more deaths per 100,000 people than any of those nations.
In terms of deaths per 100,000 people, the UK is the seventh highest country globally, behind Belgium, San Marino, Peru, Andorra, Spain and Italy.
03-12-2020, 10:29 PM
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Re: Covid-19: UK first in Europe to pass 60,000 Covid deaths
There are reports here that the actual UK deaths are over 70,000 and that the UK government has massaged the figures to make them seem better than the reality.I do recall the number of deaths dropped by 5000 in one day when the government changed the recording criteria.
03-12-2020, 10:34 PM
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Re: Covid-19: UK first in Europe to pass 60,000 Covid deaths
Originally Posted by scot37
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Italy are going through a bad spell just now as well, 23,225 new cases and 993 deaths.
03-12-2020, 10:41 PM
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Re: Covid-19: UK first in Europe to pass 60,000 Covid deaths
[QUOTE=Bruce;1999611]There are reports here that the actual UK deaths are over 70,000 and that the UK government has massaged the figures to make them seem better than the reality.I do recall the number of deaths dropped by 5000 in one day when the government changed the recording criteria.
Who are these people saying the deaths are over 70,000? Experts? or media muck.
It could quite well be a lot more than has been said, I don't think it would be easy to get it spot on. The governments of some countries I believe are telling huge lies in their figures.........China for one and we don't even know the figures of North Korea, now that would be interesting to know.
04-12-2020, 12:10 AM
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Re: Covid-19: UK first in Europe to pass 60,000 Covid deaths
https://www.over50sforum.com/showthr...28#post199292817-11-2020, 06:19 pm
I posted:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54976362
Deaths registered for any reason were 15% above the level expected at this time of year.
The total number of "excess" deaths, those above expected levels, since the start of the pandemic is now 70,839
Most of these deaths occurred in the first wave: the weeks since the start of October account for just over 5,500 of that total.
04-12-2020, 05:10 AM
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Re: Covid-19: UK first in Europe to pass 60,000 Covid deaths
Originally Posted by Lion Queen
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Who are these people saying the deaths are over 70,000? Experts? or media muck.
It could quite well be a lot more than has been said, I don't think it would be easy to get it spot on. The governments of some countries I believe are telling huge lies in their figures.........China for one and we don't even know the figures of North Korea, now that would be interesting to know.
The BBC
Daily Mail
UK News Yahoo
Newschain UK
The National Scot
Irish Examiner
Herald Scotland
The Guardian
The Daily Telegraph
Glasgow Times
The Guernsey Press
Is that enough reports? Some are more reliable than others but there seems to be a consensus that it is true.
I am not sure it is helpful comparing the UK to North Korea or China unless you admire their totalitarian government style or the figures you get make you feel better.
Surely the more important statistic is how YOUR government is looking after YOU?
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