Whats the CTA Juddy?
The only thing l can think of is 'the cmmon travel arrangement' ??
If so,what is its purpose??
Surely the new ferry will affect any previous arrangements
concerning travel or customs etc??

Donkeyman! 🤔🤔

No.
What you think is incorrect.
Where fish is landed is not necessarily where it is put to market.

To quote Wikipedia about Grimsby:
"The town still has the largest fish market in the UK"

While Grimsby no longer has the largest fishing fleet or lands the most fish, the history of when it did for many years is why it not only hosts the largest fish market and the largest fish action but it has this too:
"Greater Grimsby is home to around 500 food-related companies, giving it one of the largest concentrations of food manufacturing, research, storage, and distribution in Europe."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimsby

Depends on the way you look at it. If you are going by fish caught elsewhere Billingsgate the biggest market. Brixham claim to be the biggest fish market by value in England.

So no admission you were wrong and were talking about fish landed rather than markets, just a feeble attempt to deny a fact?


Billingsgate is the biggest inland fish market, not the biggest fish market but if you want to carry on suggesting that Wiki is wrong you go for it.

So no admission you were wrong and were talking about fish landed rather than markets, just a feeble attempt to deny a fact?


Billingsgate is the biggest inland fish market, not the biggest fish market but if you want to carry on suggesting that Wiki is wrong you go for it.

A lot of that is for historical reasons, I put a load of weighing and labelling equipment in at a big fish plant called "Smales" over in Hull many moons ago. A lot of fish imported now is packaged before shipping from other countries so the processing for companies such as Smales has seen a decline in demand.

One of the great things about the fisheries bill, is that over 60% of fish caught in our waters must be landed and processed in a UK port. This means that for the big factory processing ships, it becomes unviable in terms of cost and for the big pelagic freezer trawlers as well. Same goes for the Dutch, Spanish and Danish flag boats who never see a UK port even though they are UK registered companies.

Of course, the remainers will still ramble on about fishing being only a tiny fraction of our GDP, but when you factor all these aspects of fishing (see the list below) you can see why it isn't and if they want proof, just look at the panic on the faces of the Dutch, French and Spanish over the return of fish stocks to the UK and the end of the CFP in UK waters. If it was that unimportant, they would be shrugging their shoulders and saying "so what".

Here is a short list....
1. Boat building, repair, maintenance berthing
2. Boat crew
3. Clothing and safety equipment
4. Fuel
5. Tools and equipment
6. Marine spares and boat chandlery
7. Fish landing (plus all the machinery and jobs that go with it)
8. Fish processing - jobs, supply chain, transport and all the equipment, catering, employment, pensions, company cars, work equipment, IT etc etc needed to run these plants
9. Tax revenues
10. Harbour staff, maintenance contracts, equipment investment such as radio, IT, communications etc etc
11. Port authorities - jobs, investment, new equipment, infrastructure etc

Then ...

1. Tourism
2. Restaurants, cafe's and pubs/bars
3. Fishing charters for recreational sea anglers
4. Fishing equipment, reels, rods, line, hooks, clothing (a £2 billion industry in itself)
5. Foreign tourism into the UK (as we do to place such as Norway, USA, South Africa and Canada)
6. Transport, fuel, motorway services etc

And thats just a list off the top of my head while I'm eating a biscuit.

There is loads more where that came from. The best sea fishing rods by the way are made in the UK - Century and Zziplex. There used to be Conoflex too but they went to the wall a few years ago. The UK is responsible for many sea fishing innovations from companies such as Breakaway Tackle, Ian Golds, Gemini Tackle etc etc.

Only one thing missing Bread ?
I know yu did say loads more to come!!
Refridgeration? very important !!

Donkeyman! 😁😁

As you can see by the figures Peterhead has the biggest landings in the UK by a country mile followed by Brixham.

Does the fish not go on the market as soon as it is landed?

Take a look at the video of the Peterhead market.

One explanation could be fish is bought and transported to Grimsby where as you said there are big fish processing plants.

Fish markets and ports will change anyway with Brexit.

Billingsgate and Brixham differ anyway in that Billingsgate also supply species that aren't exclusive to the sea such as salmon and trout.

If we are talking about sea fishing then I would say we will see an increase in sizes of both markets but as Brixham is also a sea port, I can see more investment into there than Billingsgate.

Just my 2p worth