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Did George Soros get a mention in that Stephen Fry diatribe? I got as far as the assertion that some `Leavers` were using Brexit to boost their incomes before I stopped watching. George isn't short of a few bob is he? This the bloke who manipulates money markets by destabilising a country's currency so he can buy that devalued currency at reduced rates then sell it again when the currency rises in value. This is the bloke who is (allegedly)* funding the `Remain` campaign and the legal claims of Gina Miller in her fight to overturn a democratic decision because she doesn't like the result. You don't seriously think he's doing all of this for altruistic reasons do you?

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Originally Posted by zuludog ->
My background is traditional Northern England working class, and for years I voted Labour, but not any more

Even though Boris, JRM, Nigel Farage & co have an educated and upper class background, they speak more for me than Corbyn or anyone else in the current Labour Party

The Metropolitan-Lefty-Liberal-Remainer Esatablishment always expected that support for Leave would be from the Right.
Well it was, but what surprised and shocked them was that most of the support came from traditional Labour voters, and that's something they could never understand
great post, zuludog.

I'm from a family of builders and joiners .....Grandad a joiner, father a joiner/ builder, I'm a joiner and my grandson has just started a Carpentry/Joinery apprenticeship.

My dad was a member of the Socialist Workers Party and we used to go around selling the SW paper and a pamphlet with 'International Socialists' on it in the '70's/'80's. We supported the strikers in the Miners Strike and went on Anti-Nazi League marches in Bristol and London.
I voted Labour my whole life until recently.

I will never vote Labour again.

They have abandoned the Working Class.

Corbyn is a shambles, a wreck, a dribbling, slittering buffoon more concerned with Uni Campus politics than Working class issues.

The fact that Farage and Johnson speaks to the hoi polloi of the UK better than The Labour Party spells the end for them and I will not be lectured to by luvvie twats like Stephen Fry, Gary Lineker and Hugh Grant
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31-08-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
All the antagonism on this forum has supposedly nothing to do with the fact that stephen fry is married to someone 30 years younger. And certainly not with him being a homosexual? I bet every one of you can claim friendship with someone who is gay. So absolutely no prejudice there. It is all due to the fact that he is a remainer.
The antagonism looks the same as that of recent history against immigrants, moslims, communists, homosexuals, women, slaves, americans, negroes, french etc. People like you have always been around.
Until you mentioned it, I had forgotten he was homosexual or that he married a near child. Once again, the do gooders jump to their own conclusions. I don't like him much, not because he is gay but because he is a self centred smug git who believes in his own self importance because he speaks with a posh accent.
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31-08-2019, 02:17 PM
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because he is a self centred smug git who believes in his own self importance because he speaks with a posh accent.
Talking about fry, or boris or JRM or all those other gits you do condone?
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31-08-2019, 02:19 PM
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If anyone really wants to see a part of the country with little investment than try visiting the South West.
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31-08-2019, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Talking about fry, or boris or JRM or all those other gits you do condone?
I don't consider Johnson to be a smug git and I know little about JRM, anyway, stop trying to move the goalposts. You made an assumption which, as usual, was completely wrong. If you are saying I should like Fry because he is gay, then you should work for the BBC.
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31-08-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
I don't consider Johnson to be a smug git and I know little about JRM, anyway, stop trying to move the goalposts. You made an assumption which, as usual, was completely wrong. If you are saying I should like Fry because he is gay, then you should work for the BBC.
Assuming you also don't like the bbc?
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31-08-2019, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Banchory ->
So you think that ordinary people only live north of Watford?
Your arrogance and ignorance knows no bounds.

What you call “the selfish wealth of the South” is your jealousy of enterprising people who work hard and who are net contributors to the UK economy and are people who never whinge or complain of supporting the net takers across the rest of the country

The irony is that one of the key mantras of leavers is that the UK are net contributors and shouldn’t subsidise the net takers

Fry may we’ll be obnoxious but the message he is imparting is real.

However it seems that you would rather throw your toys out of the pram because he’s an “arch leaver” rather than read it

Pathetic!
Your weasel words are absolutely laughable.

In fact, your pathetic, transparent attempt at insinuating that I am referring to the ordinary hard-working people and small business owners in London in my accusation against the elite establishment, just shows how desperate you are to convince yourself that you have a sensible answer.
You haven't!

You would garner far more respect if you were big enough to admit you just have no answer to my accusation, rather than come out with really silly fake hand over the mouth with shock horror response, which honestly, is laughable coming from you.

I can read you like a book.
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31-08-2019, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
If anyone really wants to see a part of the country with little investment than try visiting the South West.
Take a look at how much the EU invests there. https://www.myeu.uk
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31-08-2019, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
All the antagonism on this forum has supposedly nothing to do with the fact that stephen fry is married to someone 30 years younger. And certainly not with him being a homosexual? I bet every one of you can claim friendship with someone who is gay. So absolutely no prejudice there. It is all due to the fact that he is a remainer.
The antagonism looks the same as that of recent history against immigrants, moslims, communists, homosexuals, women, slaves, americans, negroes, french etc. People like you have always been around.
I had forgotten who he married but as I said at the time if they are both happy and consenting adults good luck to them I find that remark insulting and completely untrue. He is a man who until he took it upon himself to talk to leavers like we are mess on his shoe was actually quite popular, a clever, funny man who despite his mental health problems was trying to help others to cope with their diagnoses. He lost the plot a while ago over Brexit and his insults about leavers changed many of our minds about him. Nothing to do with his sexuality at all.
 
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