02-03-2020, 11:53 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Yes but you can’t live there .Ie in the dry middle of Australia .
In pest ridden sub Saharan Africa .
In the U.K. everyone would jump up and down if we built a refugee camp in the dales or on Dartmoor.
Poor people can’t live out in the wilds ( certainly in the U.K.) you need a car .
Country properties are exorbitant and there is little or no work.
03-03-2020, 12:05 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Yes but you can’t live there .Ie in the dry middle of Australia .
In pest ridden sub Saharan Africa .
In the U.K. everyone would jump up and down if we built a refugee camp in the dales or on Dartmoor.
Poor people can’t live out in the wilds ( certainly in the U.K.) you need a car .
Country properties are exorbitant and there is little or no work.
After all......We can put a man on the moon....
03-03-2020, 12:30 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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The world is only overpopulated where humans congregate Donkeyman, Cities and towns. There are still huge amounts of space if you know where to look......
being the land is not arable or is desertified, ( is there such a word?)
Or consists of mountainous territory with the problems that brings!
So allthough on a map the world looks empty it in fact it is not
habitable on any large scale, especially by humans?
This is mainly why imo, the forests are being decimated to create
more farming land and search for minerals etc?
You can see the way humans modify their landscape if you look at
your yorkshire dales and moors, where allthough it is very pretty
and even beautiful , it used to be much different before farmers
got busy and cleared most of the forests for pastures and created
the neat and clean looking landscapes we see now!
The forests must have been there once or you would not have had
such a successful coal mining industry in the area?
Donkeyman!
03-03-2020, 03:17 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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So adapt or die Muddy......After all......We can put a man on the moon....
How will we cope if climate conditions reduce our ability to grow food and the population continues to increase?
If people of the world are unable to grow food they will move to places where food is being grown.
If those who are able to feed themselves don't have enough to share, the hungry will try to steal & become violent...... we would all kill to save our own loved ones!
Those who have enough money may try to go to the moon, but there is no guarantee they will succeed.
I think we need to accept that humans may become extinct, at least on earth, and it will be politicians & scientists who have the best chance of making any escape.
It may not happen in our time, but I don't wear rose coloured glasses and am aware that even dinosaurs probably thought they were invincible and their species would go on forever.
Perhaps nature has decided that a completely new life form is now needed on earth!
03-03-2020, 08:48 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Those vast empty areas are empty for a reason OGF, The main onebeing the land is not arable or is desertified, ( is there such a word?)
Or consists of mountainous territory with the problems that brings!
So allthough on a map the world looks empty it in fact it is not
habitable on any large scale, especially by humans?
This is mainly why imo, the forests are being decimated to create
more farming land and search for minerals etc?
You can see the way humans modify their landscape if you look at
your yorkshire dales and moors, where allthough it is very pretty
and even beautiful , it used to be much different before farmers
got busy and cleared most of the forests for pastures and created
the neat and clean looking landscapes we see now!
The forests must have been there once or you would not have had
such a successful coal mining industry in the area?
Donkeyman!
Islands can, and have been constructed in places that were once was covered by water, perhaps waste plastic could be used for foundations. Sealed of course.
Oil platform type villages could be created to build communities that are self contained. Human ingenuity is boundless....
03-03-2020, 08:53 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by Twink55
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Foxy, both you and I have overcome terrible health problems by making some changes to our lives and I know it wasn't easy...but we were just 2 individuals.How will we cope if climate conditions reduce our ability to grow food and the population continues to increase?
If people of the world are unable to grow food they will move to places where food is being grown.
If those who are able to feed themselves don't have enough to share, the hungry will try to steal & become violent...... we would all kill to save our own loved ones!
Those who have enough money may try to go to the moon, but there is no guarantee they will succeed.
I think we need to accept that humans may become extinct, at least on earth, and it will be politicians & scientists who have the best chance of making any escape.
It may not happen in our time, but I don't wear rose coloured glasses and am aware that even dinosaurs probably thought they were invincible and their species would go on forever.
Perhaps nature has decided that a completely new life form is now needed on earth!
I don't ever see the moon being populated, it's a far too hostile place to build a thriving community, I was referring to the technology that got us there, If you can think it, it can become possible.
04-03-2020, 11:40 AM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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With around 71% of the earth's surface covered by oceans we have the technology to live below the sea which would free up lots of growing land for food production. We could even grow things below the sea. Islands can, and have been constructed in places that were once was covered by water, perhaps waste plastic could be used for foundations. Sealed of course.
Oil platform type villages could be created to build communities that are self contained. Human ingenuity is boundless....
be talking tongue in cheek as l am sure you know that the logistics
of all that you propose are against us? The new births of humans
is far in excess of our capacity to launch them into space, so if we
cant reduce the birth rate we will eventually have to find other
methods of controlling our numbers?
It does'nt bear thinking about, but it must be thought about, and the
sooner the better!
Donkeyman!
04-03-2020, 11:52 AM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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I hear all you say OGF and its very appealing! But l am sure you mustbe talking tongue in cheek as l am sure you know that the logistics
of all that you propose are against us? The new births of humans
is far in excess of our capacity to launch them into space, so if we
cant reduce the birth rate we will eventually have to find other
methods of controlling our numbers?
It does'nt bear thinking about, but it must be thought about, and the
sooner the better!
Donkeyman!
04-03-2020, 12:06 PM
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Re: Are we really Overpopulated?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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What, you mean like introducing a virus into the world Donkeyman......Wait a minute....
Donkyman!
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